Warning: this episode contains a pirate cat that no one can explain, a butterfly scene that lasts approximately forever, and Cookie Monster eating a car. Welcome to Hard to Watch!

Host Alex Parker sits down with actress, writer, director, and mom Colleen De Silva to put two 80s "kids' movies" on trial: The Last Unicorn (1982) and Sesame Street Presents: Follow That Bird (1985). Colleen watched both with her three-year-old, whose review of the soft-rock soundtrack was basically "Mama, this song will be over soon, right?" Honestly, same.

What we get into:

• Why a unicorn movie scored by the band America (yes, "A Horse with No Name") was a very strange choice
• The G-rated moments that felt oddly grown-up, and a voice cast stacked with Angela Lansbury, Mia Farrow, Jeff Bridges, and Christopher Lee
• Follow That Bird's one-liners, the tossed salad scene, that suddenly-it's-Lethal-Weapon car chase, and cameos from Chevy Chase, John Candy, Dave Thomas, Joe Flaherty, and Waylon Jennings
• Why both movies had our guest bored (and one of us nodding off before the end)
• A filmmaker's take on what makes a movie feel off, from mouths that don't move to jokes that stall the story

Colleen also shares what she's working on: her talk show Coffee with Colleen, a feature film in development, and her role in the short film Another Life.

Every episode, a guest picks a movie, Alex picks one to match, and together they figure out why they're hard to watch. Some episodes get heavy. This one gets a pirate cat.

Hard to Watch is produced by Creators Co., a Redding, California indie collective helping emerging artists create their work. Watch more at creatorscotv.com and follow @creatorsco.tv.

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