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The Joy of the Next Step: Leading Through Fear, Failure & Uncertainty | Alison Levine

The Joy of the Next Step: Leading Through Fear, Failure & Uncertainty | Alison Levine

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What do we already know about courage, change, and ourselves that can help us find our footing right now?Alison Levine has climbed the highest peak on every continent, skied to both the North and South Poles, and served as team captain of the first American Women’s Everest Expedition. She has navigated environments where conditions can change without warning, the path forward is rarely certain, and knowing when to keep going matters just as much as knowing when to turn around.In this episode of Technically Joyful, Alison and Gabrielle explore what those experiences can teach us about leading ourselves and others through the uncertainty of the AI era. Alison shares why impossibly big challenges become more manageable when we focus on the next step, and why clarity of intent can keep us moving even when clarity in the environment is impossible.But moving forward does not always mean moving in one direction. On Everest, climbers repeatedly return to base camp as they acclimatize, descending so they can regain the strength they need to eventually climb higher. Alison connects that experience to failure tolerance and her own return to Everest eight years after turning around just 270 feet from the summit. What can look like retreat or failure in the moment may become experience, strength, and strategy for what comes next.The conversation also challenges some of the stories we tell ourselves about who is equipped to navigate difficult change. Alison reflects on learning that she did not need to keep pace with the biggest or strongest climbers to belong on the mountain, and that being valuable to a team is about more than being its strongest performer. Encouragement, humor, attitude, enthusiasm, and the ability to help other people keep going are strengths too. And then there is fear. Rather than treating fear as something leaders need to eliminate, Alison has learned to use it as information that can keep her awake, alert, and aware. Gabrielle connects that lesson to the difference between joy and toxic positivity: navigating change with curiosity and possibility does not require ignoring the signals telling us that something is hard, uncertain, or genuinely frightening. We can acknowledge fear without allowing it to make every decision for us. That requires discernment, too. Not every uncomfortable moment is a reason to stop, but persistence is not always the answer either. Alison shares why leaders need to stay clear on the goal, understand their risk tolerance, prepare for different scenarios, and recognize when changing course protects their ability to keep going.Because the goal is not simply to reach one summit at any cost. It is to build the capacity to take the next step, learn from the steps that did not take us where we expected, and preserve enough of ourselves for the people and possibilities that come next.Your Transformation Gym Rep: Lighten the PackAfter a talk, book, or interesting conversation, open an AI tool and voice-dump the ideas you want to remember. Leave out anything confidential or sensitive.Ask: “Organize what I’ve shared into a few themes. Keep them my ideas. Don’t include your suggestions.”Then, if you want help moving from reflection to action, ask AI to suggest three possible next steps, keeping its suggestions separate from your ideas.The goal is to lighten the pack: make sense of what you want to carry forward while keeping your ideas separate from AI’s suggestions. Episode Highlights:Why clarity of intent matters when the environment is uncertainWhy being at “base camp with AI” doesn’t mean you’re behind Why progress can sometimes require going backward to regain strengthWhat failure tolerance makes possible when the outcome is uncertainWhy someone else’s pace does not determine whether you belongHow encouragement, humor, and attitude can make you valuable to a teamWhy fear can be useful information instead of something to eliminateHow leaders can acknowledge fear without slipping into toxic positivityWhat performance ego and team ego can teach us about building strong teamsHow to know when discomfort means keep going and when it may be time to change courseWhy Alison is replacing “go big or go home” with “go big and go home”Sources & Resources:Website: https://alisonlevine.com/On the Edge: Leadership Lessons from Mount Everest and Other Extreme Environments: https://alisonlevine.com/the-book/Coach K Center on Leadership & Ethics, Duke University: https://centers.fuqua.duke.edu/cole/Ways to Connect with GabrielleSubscribe to Technically Joyful on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube: technicallyjoyful.comNewsletter: technicallyjoyful.comGK Strategic Advisory: gkstrategic.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/gabrielle-kohlmeier
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