Natalie Ellis had millions of followers, a full team, and a fancy LA office by the time she was 25. Then one day, she got on a regular Zoom call and said, "I quit. I no longer wish to be CEO of this company."

How do you build a female entrepreneurship platform? How do you make it one of the biggest of its kind in the world? And how do you walk away from something like that? Those were some of the questions I had in mind before sitting down with today's guest.

During our conversation, she breaks down what makes content actually convert. Why audience growth and revenue growth are two completely different things. And most importantly, how she went from burning out to making over $2.2 million while completely offline for 12 weeks.

"Audience growth does not equal business growth, and audience growth does not equal revenue." ~ Natalie Ellis

In This Episode:

- Introduction: how Natalie built Bossbabe

- Seeing Instagram's potential before anyone else

- The type of content that makes people buy

- Why follower count and revenue have nothing to do with each other

- The Zoom call where she quit and what came after

- Mindset before systems, and the discipline of staying simple

- How Jen and Natalie each use AI for content

- Why right now is the time to build

- Where to find Natalie and get her book

About Natalie Ellis

Natalie Ellis is the founder and CEO of Bossbabe, one of the largest online communities and education platforms for female entrepreneurs, with over 4 million followers and more than $20 million in course and membership revenue. She is also the co-founder of glōci, host of the Bossbabe Podcast, and an angel investor in women-led businesses. Her work has reached thousands of students through her online courses, all built through organic social media with no paid ads. Natalie wrote the Freedom-Based Business Method, her playbook for building a business that generates revenue without requiring you to run every part of it yourself.

IG: https://www.instagram.com/iamnatalie/

Website: https://www.natalie-ellis.com/

Get Natalie's Book: https://bossbabe.com/buythebook

Where to find me:

IG: https://www.instagram.com/jen_gottlieb/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jen_gottlieb

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Jenleahgottlieb

Website: https://jengottlieb.com/

My business: https://www.superconnectormedia.com/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jen_gottlieb

At just 30, Sahil Bloom had everything society told him he needed. The house, the job, the salary, and everything else on the list. And yet, he was miserable.

This episode is a replay of one of my favorite conversations on this show. Sahil's story had a pretty normal beginning. He set goals, worked hard, and hit his goals. Except when he got there, something felt off.

He was living 3,000 miles away from his family, drinking seven days a week, all while pretending everything was fine. So he stopped and asked himself a question most people are too afraid to ask. Am I even playing the right game? What follows in our conversation is everything he found on the other side of that question.

Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/cgJ-NpUmGSE

"Unless you create your own definition of success, you will never feel successful." ~ Sahil Bloom

In This Episode:

- When you feel empty despite hitting every goal

- Why money became the way we measure success

- Why “later” is just another word for “never”

- How investing in the right things compounds over time

- The “Life Razor” and why everyone needs one

- How the stories we tell ourselves shape our future

About Sahil Bloom

Sahil Bloom is a New York Times bestselling author, entrepreneur, and investor on a mission to positively impact one billion lives. A Stanford graduate, he spent seven years in high finance before walking away from the traditional path to redesign life on his own terms. His debut book, The 5 Types of Wealth, redefines what it means to live a wealthy life, making the case that true fulfillment goes far beyond money. Over 800,000 people read his newsletter, The Curiosity Chronicle, every week. He is also the owner of SRB Holdings and the managing partner of SRB Ventures, an early-stage investment fund.

IG: https://www.instagram.com/sahilbloom

X: https://x.com/SahilBloom

Website: https://www.sahilbloom.com/

Where to find me:

IG: https://www.instagram.com/jen_gottlieb/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jen_gottlieb

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Jenleahgottlieb

Website: https://jengottlieb.com/

My business: https://www.superconnectormedia.com/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jen_gottlieb

Today's episode is a throwback to a keynote Q&A I did with Lisa Johnson at one of her live events. We get into building a speaking career from nothing, the daily habits that got me there, what changed when my Instagram started blowing up, and how Stage Leaders came to life during one of the hardest times of my life. Hope you enjoy!

"Confidence comes from consistently sticking with the commitments you make with yourself." ~ Jen Gottlieb

In This Episode:

- Why Jen went from actress to entrepreneur

- How Instagram led to Jen's first speaking opportunity

- How doing events with Chris became her speaker boot camp

- Why imposter syndrome is actually a sign of growth

- The mindset shift behind Jen's Instagram explosion

- The story behind Stage Leaders

- The four pillars of Influence

- Jen and Chris’ working relationship

About Lisa Johnson

Lisa Johnson is a multi-seven-figure business strategist who makes 90% of her income through passive and semi-passive income streams. Her debut book, Make Money Online, made the Sunday Times bestseller list, and her podcast has been downloaded over 500,000 times, reaching number one in the business podcast charts. She has been featured on the BBC's Women's Hour, The Telegraph, The Guardian, Psychologies, Fast Company, and Forbes, where one of her articles garnered over 250,000 views in a week.

IG: https://www.instagram.com/lisajohnsonstrategist/

Website: https://lisajohnson.com/

Where to find me:

IG: https://www.instagram.com/jen_gottlieb/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jen_gottlieb

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Jenleahgottlieb

Website: https://jengottlieb.com/

My business: https://www.superconnectormedia.com/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jen_gottlieb