A single conversation can change a life, then change a team, then change a community. Lewis sits down with Dave Payne and follow a chain of moments that starts with a simple leadership question, “Are you committed or are you interested?”, and expands into a set of stories about mentorship, E-Colours, and what it really means to pay it forward. Along the way, he and Dave revisit how leadership development becomes real when it leaves the classroom and shows up in the decisions people make under pressure.
One thread runs from Steve Craig to his daughter Kami, and all the way to the USA Olympic Water Polo training camp. We talk about coaching, communication, and why understanding different working styles can unlock teamwork fast. We also reflect on bringing students from Southwest Schools into that world, and why those experiences matter for confidence, aspiration, and long-term opportunity. The theme is constant: the ripple effect is not a metaphor, it is the actual mechanism of culture change.
We also get practical for engineers, HSE, and operational leaders. Dave shares what he wishes he had learned at 22: process safety, barriers and safeguards, human performance, risk, and the hierarchy of controls, plus a memorable “red glove day” lesson in unintended consequences. Then we tackle AI in engineering and the future of wells, keeping it grounded: don’t buy the hype, learn to use AI to make yourself better, and protect the human edge of innovation and judgement. We close by reframing legacy as something you build in real time through the people you develop, whether that’s at work, in schools, or across a massive volunteer ecosystem like the Houston Super Bowl host committee.
If this gave you a nudge to mentor someone, rethink your own legacy, or sharpen your safety thinking, subscribe, share the episode with a colleague, and leave a review. What’s one ripple effect you hope your career creates?