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The Intangible Brand

The Intangible Brand

著者: TOKY & Cline
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Welcome to The Intangible Brand, where we explore the connection between employee experience and client experience, and the hidden forces that make brands stick. Each episode offers practical insights and inspiration for building a brand people are proud to work for — and eager to work with.


The Intangible Brand is brought to you by Cline and TOKY.


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  • Ep 6 – Leading with Purpose and Building Culture with Dave Minifie
    2025/09/03

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    In this episode of The Intangible Brand, Jerry welcomes Dave Minifie, a seasoned leader known for bringing clarity to the relationship between purpose, leadership, and organizational culture.

    Dave shares his perspective on why understanding the “why” (whether in personal life, family, or within an organization) is essential to achieving long-term success. He explores how leaders can create environments that empower people to reach their full potential, while also helping organizations unlock possibilities beyond what they thought possible.

    This conversation highlights how the personal and professional are inseparably linked, and why purpose and culture are more than just buzzwords. They’re the foundation for lasting impact.

    In this Episode

    • Why purpose is the foundation of effective leadership (00:09:56)
    • How to cultivate a culture where people thrive and organizations grow (00:03:43)
      The importance of connecting personal values with professional leadership (00:09:56)
    • How environment and trust can unlock untapped potential (00:04:28)
    • Why purpose-driven organizations outperform others (00:22:38)

    Guest

    • Dave Minifie is the Principal of MinifiesTake, LLC, a strategic consultancy focused on helping organizations articulate their purpose, mission, and beliefs to cultivate an intentional culture and drive sustainable growth

    Resources

    • It’s Not What You Sell, It’s What You Stand For by Roy Spence Jr. [book]
    • Start With Why by Simon Sinek [book]
    • Grow by Jim Stengel [book]
    • Pivot with Kara Swisher [podcast]

    Connect With Us

    Follow the Hosts: Jerry Genneria & Carl Winstead

    Learn More about TOKY & Cline

    Get In Touch: hello@theintangiblebrand.com

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    51 分
  • Ep 5 – Why Employer Brand Is Your Untapped Advantage | Lindsay Wilson & Elizabeth Pierce
    2025/08/20

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    What happens when a brand refresh becomes a catalyst for cultural alignment, recruiting strength, and leadership clarity?

    In this episode of The Intangible Brand, hosts Jerry Gennaria and Carl Winstead speak with Lindsay Wilson, President and Interior Sector Leader at Corgan, and Elizabeth Pierce, Chief Marketing Officer at Corgan. Together, they share how one of the nation’s largest architecture and design firms transformed its brand from a visual update into a powerful tool for internal cohesion and market positioning.

    You’ll hear how Corgan moved from an external brand refresh to a unified employer brand—one grounded in employee input and connected to recruiting, retention, and everyday decision-making. Lindsay and Elizabeth offer candid insights on balancing authenticity with aspiration, aligning leadership around shared goals, and turning brand language into a practical framework for both big initiatives and small operational wins.

    In this Episode

    • The tipping points that led to Corgan’s brand evolution (06:47)
    • Why starting with the external brand smoothed the internal process (40:05)
    • How to unify a global firm under one brand identity (09:49)
    • Turning values into actionable, observable behaviors (23:15)
    • Using employer brand as a recruiting and retention advantage (24:49)
    • Patience, leadership buy-in, and authenticity in brand adoption (32:55)
    • Applying internal brand principles to everyday challenges (29:19)

    Guests

    • Lindsay Wilson is President and Interior Sector Leader at Corgan, where she leads with a focus on people, brand, and strategic growth.
    • Elizabeth Pierce is Chief Marketing Officer at Corgan, overseeing core marketing, brand and experience, and communications teams to align internal culture with external brand perception.

    Resources

    The Square Podcast by Corgan [podcast]

    Unreasonable Hospitality [book]

    Connect With Us

    Follow the Hosts: Jerry Genneria & Carl Winstead

    Learn More about TOKY & Cline

    Get In Touch: hello@theintangiblebrand.com

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    50 分
  • Ep 4 – The Truth About CX in Professional Services | Tim Asimos
    2025/08/05

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    Are you measuring client experience (CX) in a way that actually reflects reality, or just relying on outdated metrics?

    In this episode, Tim Asimos, Head of Growth at Client Savvy, A ClearlyRated Company, explores what professional service firms get wrong about CX and how to build a client-centric culture that actually drives growth.

    In this Episode

    • How CX is gaining traction across AEC, especially through culture and leadership. (01:00)
    • The difference between CX as a tactic vs. a firm-wide cultural mindset. (05:30)
    • Why top-down buy-in is critical for sustainable CX success. (08:30)
    • Shifting from technical delivery to differentiated client experience. (12:00)
    • Creating internal alignment and empathy to improve client delivery. (16:30)
    • Innovation as a leadership mindset and the barriers that hold firms back. (21:00)
    • Embedding CX through dedicated roles, pilot programs, and empowered teams. (26:00)
    • Connecting brand, employee experience, and client experience through culture. (30:30)
    • Why journey-based client feedback outperforms single-point surveys. (35:00)
    • How to get started: small steps for launching a CX practice. (40:00

    Guest

    Tim Asimos leads growth and marketing at Client Savvy. Client Savvy has helped more than 700 AEC firms design, deliver, and measure exceptional client experiences. Their CX software transforms client feedback into actionable insights that elevate client experiences, and drive revenue growth, client retention, and overall firm performance.

    Resources
    Client Savvy, A ClearlyRated Company

    WorkLife with Adam Grant [podcast]

    Connect With Us

    Follow the Hosts: Jerry Genneria & Carl Winstead

    Learn More about TOKY & Cline

    Get In Touch: hello@theintangiblebrand.com

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    52 分
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