In this episode I speak with actor and educator, Jeff Miller, about the Jungian concept of individuation, drawing on the work of analyst James Hollis and author Marilynne Robinson to examine what it truly means to step away from collective expectations and step into oneself. We reflect on our own personal turning points—including my decision to walk away from an academic path in London to break free from long-held internal projections, and Jeff’s experience of coming out in his twenties and navigating a dark night of the soul through midlife and recovery—to explore how shadow work, the courage to be different, and learning to stay present through uncertainty and suffering allow us to lead a more conscious, meaningful life.

In this episode I trace my journey from an intense graduate‑school community in London through academic disillusionment, anxiety, and early novel‑writing, toward Jungian analysis and the creation of Sophia Cycles as a circle for exploring inner life. I reflect on how apparent missteps and detours can become waypoints on the path of individuation, especially as we reclaim shadowed parts of ourselves in midlife and begin to live from a more authentic center. Along the way, I introduce key companions for this inner work—Robert A. Johnson’s Inner Work and A Joseph Campbell Companion: Reflections on the Art of Living—and invite listeners to see their own collapses and questions as essential material for meaning rather than failures to be erased.

In this episode I sit down with the actor and educator Jeff Miller to explore Robert A. Johnson’s We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love through a Jungian lens, asking why romantic love has become the “single greatest energy system in the Western psyche” and how it often replaces religion as our main path to meaning, transcendence, and ecstasy. We unpack projection—how we place our own unlived life and inner feminine/masculine onto a beloved—then trace romantic love back to the 12th‑century troubadours and the myth of Tristan and Isolde to show what happens when a culture puts divine longing onto human partners instead of the sacred. Along the way we look at the wounded feminine in a power‑driven patriarchy, the imbalance between “masculine” values of control and “feminine” values of connection, and why this split fuels both our idealizations and our bitter disillusionments in relationship. We also talk about where that eros can go instead—into art, theatre, music, dreams, and other experiences of transcendence that connect us to something larger without asking another person to “cure our life”—and how the deeper Jungian task is to balance our inner opposites, withdraw projections, and honour the beauty of falling in love without making it our only doorway to the soul.