A conversation with Conway Brew on late autism diagnosis, masking, psychological safety, and why neuroinclusion does not have to be overcomplicated — it starts with better language, stronger leadership, and creating space for people to show up as they are. Episode Date: May 13th Host: Tia Kleckner (CEO at LinkTech), Adam Kleckner (Head of Strategy at LinkTech) Summary: Conway Brew is a healthcare executive who masked his autism for decades before receiving a late diagnosis. What changed wasn't who he was — it was having the language to explain it. In this conversation he breaks down why neuroinclusion doesn't require corporate-level change, why subjective performance metrics quietly push out neurodivergent talent, why panel interviews are everyone's nightmare, and how assuming positive intent changes what your whole team is capable of. Main Topics: What high-functioning masking actually looks like — the exhaustion, the oversharing instinct, the strategic silence Why a late diagnosis only gives you language, not a new identity The language problem in corporate reviews: what is executive presence, really? How to lead neurodivergent people without requiring self-disclosure Why Conway interviews for personality, not skill — and what Richard Branson and SEAL team selection have in common Panel interviews: why they should go, for everyone Assume positive intent — and why it sometimes only lasts until 9am What neuroinclusion actually requires: not corporate programs, better people leaders Intriguing Quotes: "The only thing that changes with a late diagnosis is I now have the language to explain what I'm going through that I didn't have before." "Executive presence — if you ask five executives to explain it, you'll probably get four different answers, maybe five." "I like to hire adults, treat them like adults, and expect adult level work in return." "It's not as hard as you think it is. It doesn't require corporate level change. It just requires better people leaders." "Assume positive intent. Sometimes it only lasts till nine o'clock in the morning, but I try." "I've specked my character all wrong and I can't go back and redo it like I can in a game." Key Moments: [02:09] Why Conway went public: his therapist asked if he had a platform. He did. So he used it — specifically to counter the claim that neurodivergent people can't hold executive roles. [03:41] The mixing board metaphor: autism isn't a linear spectrum. Some dials are at 11, some at zero. If you've met one autistic, you've met one autistic. [11:31] The two things people leaders can do without requiring disclosure: change the language in talent reviews, and make performance metrics actually measurable. [18:36] Conway's leadership philosophy in practice — the team doesn't ask permission for time off, they manage their own deliverables. It takes people a while to believe he means it. [24:09] How Conway interviews: personality over skill, every time. Skills can be trained. If someone blows up the team dynamic, no skill set fixes that. [32:43] Lightning round: one word for how he thinks — root cause. Workplace norm to redesign — going to an office. Remove from performance reviews — anything subjective. One thing leaders overcomplicate about neuroinclusion — everything. Notable Resources: Concepts: Autism as a mixing board not a linear spectrum; masking; executive presence as unmeasurable metric; output-based leadership; psychological safety; assume positive intent Connect with Conway Brew: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/conwaybrew/ Connect with The Human Advantage Podcast: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thelinktech/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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