Season 2, Episode 4 – In this episode of The Hill Unscripted, Bob Kitchen welcomes Sam Bettinardi, President of Bettinardi Golf, for a deep dive into one of golf’s most respected family-run brands, and where it’s headed next.

Following last season’s conversation with founder Bob Bettinardi, this episode shifts to the next generation. Sam shares how he went from growing up around the shop to leading a company that has expanded from 15 employees to 95, now operating in 45 countries with over 100,000 square feet of space.

The conversation covers:

- The rise of the Antidote Zero Torque putter, now Bettinardi’s top-selling line

- What makes their zero torque design different from competitors

- How tour players like Matt Kuchar, Matt Fitzpatrick, and Fred Couples influence product design

- Why Sam spends an hour every morning inspecting quality himself

- The real reason putter fitting matters more than most golfers realize

- The story behind the Queen Bee line and its global impact

- Bettinardi’s expansion into wedges, irons, and AI-driven innovation

Sam also shares personal stories — including winning the Butler National Club Championship four times — and explains why even he chooses performance over preference when it comes to what’s in the bag.

From craftsmanship to culture, from tour feedback to global expansion, this episode pulls back the curtain on how Bettinardi plans to become not just a premium putter company, but a household name in golf.

Season 2, Episode 3 – In this episode of The Hill Unscripted, Bob Kitchen sits down with longtime family friend and Callaway sales rep Mike Dykema for a conversation that blends cutting-edge golf technology with a 50-year relationship built on trust, loyalty, and love for the game.

Bob and Mike reflect on the deep history between the Kitchen and Dykema families, dating back to their fathers’ legendary careers in golf equipment. From Power Built to Adams Golf to Callaway, the partnership has spanned decades — and now continues with the next generation.

The conversation then shifts to what’s next in golf equipment.

Mike breaks down Callaway’s brand-new Quantum line, featuring revolutionary Tri-force face technology — the first three-piece titanium driver face designed to stretch 14% more and respond 17% faster for increased ball speed and forgiveness. With five driver models and a full iron lineup built for every skill level, Quantum aims to fit everyone from beginners to Tour pros.

Bob shares his personal testing experience in California, where the Triple Diamond Max helped him hit 26 of 28 fairways after months away from competitive golf.

They also discuss:

- Callaway’s $12 million Ai investment and how it’s reshaping club design

- The future of golf fitting and a new technology launching soon

- Why service separates Callaway from competitors

- The importance of long-term business relationships in golf

- Upcoming Maple Hill fitting events and how to get dialed in

This episode is equal parts innovation, loyalty, and inside-the-industry perspective — a must-listen for golfers who care about where the game is heading.

Season 2, Episode 2 – The Hill Unscripted, Bob Kitchen sits down with Maple Hill Golf’s head fitter and longtime friend, William “Dub” Ogden, for a wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation covering golf gear, industry drama, and life behind the scenes at one of the busiest fitting centers in the Midwest.

Dub shares how he went from selling doors and windows to leading Maple Hill’s fitting department, how being a three-sport athlete (and the last guy to beat UFC’s Tony Ferguson in high school wrestling) shaped his approach to coaching, and why finding the right club for the right player matters more than chasing high-end “unicorn” upgrades.

This episode dives into:

- The future (or downfall) of LIV Golf

- First thoughts on 2026 gear – Callaway Quantum, Cobra Optum, Mizuno’s new driver tech

- Why Evnroll putters might be golf’s best-kept secret

- Honest takes on low-spin driver myths, chippers, and 60-degree wedges

- Upcoming Maple Hill events, live auctions, Midwest golf shows, and more

You’ll also hear stories of hole-in-one drama, golf cart injuries, Dub’s dream foursome (Tiger, Daly, and Payne Stewart), and a behind-the-scenes look at Maple Hill’s evolving gear strategy going into 2026 and beyond.

Season 2, Episode 1 – The Hill Unscripted returns for Season 2 with a heavy hitter: Guerin Rife, the legendary designer behind Rife Putters and Evenroll Golf.

In this in-depth conversation with Bob Kitchen, Guerin walks through his journey from metal shop entrepreneur to industry innovator — revealing how he changed the putting game forever through groove technology, Sweet Face, and the iconic Two Bar Putter that took the Champions Tour by storm.

You’ll hear stories and insights on:

• The origins of Sweet Face 2.0 and why it's helping golfers hit putts faster, softer, and straighter

• Why even Tour pros miss the sweet spot — and how Guerin's grooves solve for it

• The rise, sale, and rebirth of his brand through Evenroll Golf

• Competing with the biggest names in golf while still building over 100 Tour wins worldwide

• The evolution of zero torque design, hosel-free construction, and what’s coming next

Plus:

• Why Guerinn’s favorite putter ever is still the Two Bar

• How the Swedish Bikini Team inspired a hilarious dream foursome moment

• His favorite U.S. course (spoiler: it’s not Pebble)

• What amateurs misunderstand most about MOI, sweet spots, and forgiveness

Whether you’re a gear junkie, a student of putting mechanics, or just love hearing from true inventors who shape the game — this episode kicks off Season 2 with engineering precision and storytelling style.

Episode 17 – In this special episode of The Hill Unscripted, host Bob Kitchen sits down with one of the most respected names in golf — Bob Bettinardi, founder of Bettinardi Golf — for a wide-ranging and personal conversation that covers everything from CNC precision to celebrity putters, major wins, and the future of the flatstick.

Bettinardi opens up about:

- How he went from engineer to golf industry disruptor, pioneering the one-piece milled putter

- His early days working with Scotty Cameron, including building the putter Bernhard Langer used to win the 1993 Masters

- The moment he went all-in and launched Bettinardi Golf in 1999

The two Bobs also talk about:

- Tour success stories with Jesper Parnevik, Jim Furyk, and Vijay Singh

- The rise of Bettinardi’s son Sam, who now runs day-to-day operations

- How The Hive, Queen Bee, and Antidote lines became icons

- Why Bettinardi believes zero torque tech is here to stay, and what’s coming next

- Making custom putters for Mark Wahlberg, DJ Khaled, and Michael Jordan

- A hilarious story involving Butler National, no menu, and a surprise Thanksgiving dinner in July

You’ll also hear his thoughts on:

- Golf innovation vs tradition

- Building a golf brand that lasts

- Why Cypress Point edges out Pebble Beach (barely)

- Playing with President Trump and Gary Player (and getting nervously roasted on the tee)

This episode is a must-listen for any golf fan, gear nerd, or entrepreneur — filled with history, humor, and a rare look behind the scenes at one of the game’s most beloved brands.

Episode 16 – In this episode of The Hill Unscripted, host Bob Kitchen delivers a packed session of golf business insights, product tips, and holiday shopping help — just in time for Thanksgiving.

Bob kicks things off with a sincere apology about a brand mention in a previous episode, reinforcing his commitment to keeping the podcast honest, informative, and professional.

Then it's onto big stories in the golf world:

- Callaway sells Top Golf at a $1.5B loss – What it says about the business of golf entertainment

- Good Good finally adds female golfers – And why it matters

- FootJoy’s evolution – From old-school to agile brand, and how they’re staying competitive

Bob also answers listener questions about:

- Teeing up on par threes – Should you? (Yes!)

- Offset in golf clubs – What it is and why most golfers need it

He then shares his Holiday Golf Gift Guide, with personal recommendations at all price points — including gear from TaylorMade, Cobra, Bridgestone, Puma, Pins & Aces, and more. Expect honest takes on what’s worth the money, what’s moving fast, and which brands Maple Hill has gone deep on (think: 40,000+ shoes, 2,000 iron sets, and hundreds of bags).

Finally, Bob runs through Maple Hill’s Black Friday promotions, including:

- Bonus gift cards with every gift card purchase

- Simulator passes, fitting discounts, and exclusive extras

- Prepaid indoor golf packages for winter play

Plus, a sneak peek at next episode’s special guest — Bob Bettinardi of Bettinardi Golf — and a quick Thanksgiving sign-off.

0:00 Podcast Introduction and Apology

1:43 Callaway Golf Sells Top Golf

5:45 Good Good Adds Female Golfers

7:57 Meeting with FootJoy Executives

9:40 Should You Tee Up on Par Threes?

11:32 Upcoming Bob Bettinardi Interview

15:31 Holiday Gift Guide

19:12 Why Do Golf Manufacturers Make So Much Offset?

24:12 Maple Hill Black Friday Deals

29:28 Thanksgiving Sign-Off

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Episode 15 - Internet Golf Booms, LIV Changes, and The Truth About Trade-Ins

In this episode of The Hill Unscripted, Bob Kitchen breaks down some of the biggest shifts in the golf world — from viral tournaments to how retailers handle your trade-ins.

Bob starts with the incredible success of the Internet Invitational, which has pulled in 5.1 million viewers, surpassing PGA Tour ratings. He shares his own vision for a new kind of event — one where players buy into the purse themselves for a winner-take-all format that brings real excitement back to golf.

Then, Bob dives into the latest LIV Golf changes, explaining why the move from 54 to 72 holes might be more about money than golf — and how YouTube creators are changing the way fans watch and interact with the game.

He also gives an inside look at how golf trade-ins really work, revealing the “smoke and mirrors” behind inflated trade-in offers and explaining how Maple Hill focuses on true value and transparency for golfers.

Plus, Bob covers:

• Proper yardage gapping between clubs and how to fix distance overlaps

• The truth about golf balls in cold weather (hint: your swing matters more than the temperature)

• How to handle the reality of aging in golf and still love the game

• Upcoming Maple Hill promotions, including free TrackMan fittings, holiday gift card bonuses, and the annual Turkey Tee Off Open on Black Friday

If you want straight talk about golf — the gear, the game, and the business — this episode delivers it all.

0:00 Introduction to The Hill Unscripted Podcast

0:28 The Internet Invitational and Golf Tournament Innovation

5:57 LIV Golf's Evolution and YouTube's Impact

9:13 How Trade-Ins Work in Golf Retail

15:01 Yardage Gapping and Club Selection

22:51 Golf Ball Selection and Temperature Effects

24:42 Mailbag Question About Aging and Golf

29:50 Maple Hill Promotions and Events

36:58 Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement

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Episode 14 - In this episode of The Hill Unscripted, host Bob Kitchen sits down with two of Michigan’s top golf instructors — Terry Ernst and Jeff Caminiti — for a deep, insightful conversation about what it really takes to improve your game, enjoy the process, and stay passionate about golf at every level.

Terry and Jeff bring decades of teaching experience, from running junior academies to earning recognition among Golf Digest’s best instructors in the state. They discuss:

• How technology like TrackMan has revolutionized teaching and club fitting
• Why individualized instruction is more effective than cookie-cutter lesson plans
• The mental side of golf, and how managing expectations can change your game
• The rise of women’s and junior golf post-COVID
• How to make the game more accessible, enjoyable, and confidence-building — especially for beginners

Plus, Bob and the crew get real about:

• Why expensive equipment doesn’t replace purposeful practice
• How to deal with nerves, frustration, and pressure on the course
• Tips for golfers of all levels to play better and have more fun

Whether you’re a beginner, weekend warrior, or just a fan of the game, this episode is filled with perspective, experience, and practical advice from two pros who love helping people get better.

🛍️ Maple Hill Promos Mentioned:

• FREE TrackMan fittings through November 27 (get 100% back as a gift card)
• Tour Edge Driver Challenge – November 7, 3–7 PM (FREE fitting + FREE Tour Edge Hat)

Guest Contact Info:

Terry Ernst - TerryE@maplehillgolf.com

Jeff Caminiti - jcaminitipga@gmail.com / https://www.instagram.com/jeff.caminitigolf/

Caminiti Golf Academy - https://caminitigolf.com/

0:00 Introduction and Bob's Golf Story

2:53 Introducing Terry Ernst and His Background

7:49 Introducing Jeff Caminiti and His Journey

10:35 Evolution of Golf Technology and Fitting

12:25 Jeff's Current Teaching Facility and Recognitions

16:05 Approach to Golf Lessons and Student Goals ‎

19:16 Growth of Women's Golf

22:53 Teaching Approach and Communication

33:18 Making Golf Accessible and Enjoyable

40:23 Mental Toughness in Golf

46:01 Amazon Basics Golf Ball and Mailbag Question

55:36 Conclusion and Maple Hill Promotions

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