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The Great Careers Program

The Great Careers Program

著者： Liv Pennie and Marian Wright
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You know that one great careers program your school has been searching for? The one that will prepare your students for the future, solve your engagement problems and finally show students there's a point to all this learning they're doing?


That one single solution was never going to come in a box. It can't be handed to one person, and it definitely isn't something that starts in Year 10. A great careers program is not something you find on a shelf. It is something you build into the conditions and architecture of the way you do schooling.


Marian Wright is a systems thinker working at the intersection of school design and student futures through Coherence Co-Lab. Liv Pennie is the CEO and Co-Founder of BECOME Education and genuinely optimistic about what young people are capable of when schools design the right conditions. Each episode they tackle one big question, dig into the evidence, and leave you with something you can actually use.


This is a show for the entire school staff room. Because preparing young people for their futures was never just one person's job.

© 2026 The Great Careers Program
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  • One more thing! Are entry level jobs disappearing? Chris Webb says there's more to the story.

    One more thing! Are entry level jobs disappearing? Chris Webb says there's more to the story.
    2026/08/24

    Liv and Marian have a lot to say. One More Thing is where the overflow goes.

    This one is from Episode 3, continuing the conversation with Chris Webb.

    If you're a graduate right now, applying into a pool of a thousand candidates for one role, it's easy to feel like the whole system is broken. Chris's advice: before you accept that story, ask how do you actually know it's true? He walks through what the UK's own graduate outcomes data is really showing (hint: it's messier and more hopeful than the headlines), why talent pipelines matter more than most people realise, and why liberal arts and interdisciplinary thinking might be due for a comeback.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    • World Economic Forum, Future of Jobs Report → weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2025
    • London Interdisciplinary School (LIS) → lis.ac.uk
    • Institute of Student Employers (ISE) → ise.org.uk

    Get in touch

    Find us on Instagram @thegreatcareersprogram and on Substack at thegreatcareersprogram.substack.com for episode recaps, research links, and the conversation between episodes. Got a question, a story, or something you want us to talk about? Email us at hi@thegreatcareersprogram.com.

    Credits

    The Great Careers Program is a collaboration between BECOME Education and Coherence Co-Lab, and is hosted and produced by Liv Pennie and Marian Wright, with production support from Bev Laing. Music by Chad Crouch.
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    16 分
  • Episode 3: How do we talk to students about AI and the future of work without the doom (or the hype!)?

    Episode 3: How do we talk to students about AI and the future of work without the doom (or the hype!)?
    2026/08/10
    For decades, we've told students in school that the formula to a good future is relatively simple: work hard, get good grades, study, get a good job. It's the sequence that most schools, parents and the media anchor their narratives about the future in. But with AI reshaping how people enter and grow in a profession, is that promise even true anymore? But we're here to ask: was that promise ever even true to begin with? In their first ever episode with a guest appearance, Marian and Liv are joined by UK career consultant Chris Webb, creator of The Week in Careers newsletter, to pull apart the headlines about AI and entry-level jobs. Chris explains why the "entry level jobs are down a third" story got misread, what it actually means for a job or industry to be "exposed" to AI, and why the 'good-grades-degree-good-job promise' was never the guarantee it was made out to be. Liv and Marian zoom out to the wider labour market with Chris, then zoom back into what it means for teachers standing in front of a disengaged classroom right now and the conversations we should be having with students about uncertainty. You'll leave with a simple way to separate the myths from what we actually know, and a reminder that curiosity and agency are still the two things worth protecting in every conversation we have with young people.Plus: this episode's "I Didn't Know That Was a Thing" is a job that we reckon even football fans have never heard of, courtesy of Chris.Research and resources mentioned in this episode. Chris mentioned these people and reports:Anthropic Economic Index — quarterly data on how businesses use Claude across industries → anthropic.com/economic-indexSarah O'Connor, Financial Times — on what "AI exposure" actually means for a job → ft.com/sarah-o-connorCreative Industries Policy and Evidence Centre — Creative Industries Skills Audits, across 11 creative sub-sectors → pec.ac.ukChris's skills dashboard, built from the Creative PEC data → creative-skill-map.lovable.appChris recommended these sources/people for balanced reporting on AI:Charlie Ball and Jisc → jisc.ac.ukLightcast for labour market analytics on AI's impact across occupations → lightcast.ioSign up to Chris newsletter!#TheWeekInCareers by Chris Webb → theweekincareers.substack.comMarian mentioned these:Audrey Watters, "'Robots Are Coming For Your Children'" (hackeducation.com, 2017) — where the "jobs that don't exist yet" claim tracing started → hackeducation.com/2017/12/20/top-ed-tech-trends-robots-kidsBenjamin Doxtdator, "A Field Guide to 'Jobs that Don't Exist Yet'" (2017) — traces the claim back through Clinton (1996) to Devereux C. Josephs (1957) → edtechbooks.orgProfessor Joel Pearson — "the world's first neuro-futurist," on cortisol and uncertainty → The Imperfects – "I Think, Therefore AI"Professor Jane McGonigal — Imaginable: How to See the Future Coming and Feel Ready for Anything → janemcgonigal.comUNESCO — futures thinking resources → unesdoc.unesco.orgOECD Career Readiness Project — the "porous walls" line about connecting classroom and workplace → oecd.org/career-readinessLiv mentioned:The Rest Is Politics Podcast — series on Gen Z, link to one episode in the series → Lucky or Left Behind? The Gen Z Money StoryPlus, don't forget to head to the Substack for this episode's "Take This To The Meeting" resource where you can unpack the concepts of this episode with your school team. Get in touchFind us on Instagram @thegreatcareersprogram and on Substack at thegreatcareersprogram.substack.com for episode recaps, research links, and the conversation between episodes. Got a question, a story, or something you want us to talk about? Email us at hi@thegreatcareersprogram.com.CreditsThe Great Careers Program is a collaboration between BECOME Education and Coherence Co-Lab, and is hosted and produced by Liv Pennie and Marian Wright, with production support from Bev Laing. Music by Chad Crouch.
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    1 時間 3 分
  • One more thing! Bias, power, and knowing when to get out of the way.

    One more thing! Bias, power, and knowing when to get out of the way.
    2026/07/19

    Liv and Marian have a lot to say, and One more thing! is where some of that overflow ends up. These are bonus, bite-sized pieces of conversation that don't end up making it into the final episode, but they are too good to leave on the cutting room floor.

    In this one: A five-year-old's fascination with submersibles is easy to get curious about. As a parent, it's much harder not to turn it into a career plan. And with senior subject selection season unfolding in schools right now, this bite-sized bonus is a timely one. Marian and Liv pick up from Marian's "I Didn't Know That Was a Thing" conversation with her son Hugo, and dig into what it takes for adults, whether that's a parent, a teacher, or a school system, to hold their own bias so a young person's own sense of who they are gets room to surface.

    They get into what actually sits underneath a career "choice" once you push past the first answer of money, why kids so often read what impresses the adults around them rather than what genuinely interests them, and a telling moment from a PD session where a science teacher admitted they didn't want students exploring too freely, in case it meant fewer of them chose science. It's all emphasised by a line from Patty McCord's book Powerful: power doesn't need to be granted. It just needs the conditions to be exercised.

    Get in touch

    Find us on Instagram @thegreatcareersprogram and on Substack at thegreatcareersprogram.substack.com for episode recaps, research links, and the conversation between episodes. Got a question, a story, or something you want us to talk about? Email us at hi@thegreatcareersprogram.com.

    Credits

    The Great Careers Program is a collaboration between BECOME Education and Coherence Co-Lab, and is hosted and produced by Liv Pennie and Marian Wright, with production support from Bev Laing. Music by Chad Crouch.
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    13 分
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