We sat down with Trevor Olson thinking we’d talk about surfing, but the conversation took us somewhere much deeper. What started as a story about chasing waves became an honest look at how easily we start chasing control instead of connection. Trevor shared how the surfers getting the most out of the ocean aren’t the ones catching the most waves, but the ones who’ve learned to be present in it. There’s something here about living with open hands instead of clenched fists, about receiving instead of fighting for more. By the end, it feels less like a conversation about surfing and more like an invitation to rediscover joy, not by striving harder, but by paying attention to where God is already meeting us.

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It starts with something small, like a kid reaching for your hand, and realizing those moments don’t last forever. Somewhere along the way, good intentions quietly turn into things we never actually do. This conversation gets honest about fear, scarcity, and why it’s easier to stay in the idea phase than risk showing up. There’s also a quiet invitation here to rethink what actually matters, especially while there’s still time. Not everything will land perfectly, but maybe that’s not the point anyway.

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This part 2 of our conversation with Doug McKelvey feels like sitting with someone who kept showing up even when it felt like nothing was working. He shares what it was like to write in the middle of doubt, where faith looked less like clarity and more like staying. There is something grounding in hearing how these prayers were shaped slowly, quietly, and sometimes without any sense of momentum. You start to realize this book was not rushed into existence but carried through a long season of uncertainty and trust.

If you want to explore it for yourself, you can grab a copy here: https://store.rabbitroom.com/products/every-moment-holy-rites-of-passage-2
It is also available on Amazon: https://a.co/d/0hXhUPCI

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This conversation drifts through the quiet places most people try to avoid, where calling feels unclear and life doesn’t follow the script you expected. Doug McKelvey shares how years that looked like failure slowly became the very soil that shaped his most meaningful work. There’s something grounding in the idea that even the smallest, most ordinary moments are not wasted but somehow tied to a much bigger story. You start to feel how honesty, disappointment, and faith can sit in the same room without needing to resolve too quickly. By the end, it leaves you noticing your own life a little differently, and if you want to keep exploring that lens, his latest book Every Moment Holy: Rites of Passage is a meaningful place to start.

You can find it here: https://store.rabbitroom.com/products/every-moment-holy-rites-of-passage-2
Also available on Amazon: https://a.co/d/0hXhUPCI

If you want to grow alongside other intentional men, you can jump into the Grove Collective at

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What happens when the idea of God as only Father starts to feel incomplete? In this episode, Beth Bruno joins Cody for an honest conversation that is both stretching and grounding. Beth takes us on a thoughtful journey that explores the often-overlooked motherly imagery of God in Scripture, why it makes some of us tense up, and what might open up if we approach it with a posture of what if instead of no way. Through a deft weaving of Scripture, history, personal story, and compassion, Beth offers a wise invitation to grow our image and experience of God.

If this conversation stirred something in you and you want to go deeper with Beth’s work, here are a few places to start:

• Beth's new book! Lost Women of Turkey: https://amzn.to/47DlZW7
• Resources for Raising Fierce and Lovely Women: https://www.bethbruno.org/fierceandlovely
• A Voice Becoming book: https://amzn.to/4sKQ1PP
• Follow Beth: https://www.bethbruno.org/

Resources mentioned:
God Has a Name by John Mark Comer - https://a.co/d/07gpqWay

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In Part 2 of our conversation with Jeff Zaugg, we move past surface-level fatherhood advice and into the deeper work of becoming present, wholehearted dads. Jeff unpacks the six core discoveries that shape a man’s journey and explains why intent alone does not transform our families. We talk honestly about how modern dads often default to provision and protection while quietly losing wonder, delight, and emotional presence. This episode explores how pace, freedom, identity, and courage intersect in everyday fatherhood, from bedtime routines to life-altering decisions. If you have ever felt the tension between grinding through responsibility and treasuring your kids, this conversation will name it and reframe it.

If you want to know more about Jeff Zaugg, his work, and DadAwesome, visit https://dadawesome.org.

Grab a copy of his book, DadAwesome on Amazon: https://www.dadawesome.org/store/p/dadawesome-dad-discoveries-to-activate-awesomeness-jeff-zaugg-pre-order

Listen to DadAwesome Podcast:
Apple Podcast: DadAwesome
Spotify: DadAwesome
YouTube: @DadAwesome

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Jeff Zaugg joins us to talk about fatherhood, but we end up talking about something deeper first. What if the pressure you feel as a dad is coming from a scoreboard God never set up? Jeff shares the story of the clipboard, the bridge, and the moment he realized he was trying to earn a love that was already his. This conversation is honest about the whispers that say you are not enough and clear about the truth that changes everything. If you have ever felt like you are behind, blowing it, or just tired, this one might feel like a deep breath.

If you want to know more about Jeff Zaugg, his work, and DadAwesome, visit https://dadawesome.org.

Grab a copy of his book, DadAwesome: https://www.dadawesome.org/store/p/dadawesome-dad-discoveries-to-activate-awesomeness-jeff-zaugg-pre-order

Listen to DadAwesome Podcast:
Apple Podcast: DadAwesome
Spotify: DadAwesome
YouTube: @DadAwesome

If you want to grow alongside other intentional men, you can jump into the Grove Collective at

https://www.restorationproject.net/grovecollective

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Discipline sounds simple until you realize how much of it is actually about you. In this episode, Jesse French and Cody Buriff get honest about the moments they got big, shut down, or simply forgot their kid in the hallway. They explore what is really happening underneath our anger, why something in us feels threatened, and how that spills onto our sons and daughters. This is not about perfect behavior or perfect dads, but about repair, humility, and becoming the kind of man who can keep the slowest heart rate in the room. If you have ever wondered whether you already messed your kids up, this conversation might feel like oxygen.

If you want to grow alongside other intentional men, you can jump into the Grove Collective at

https://www.restorationproject.net/grovecollective

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