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This month’s guest is Cliff Smith, executive director of the Get It Right Initiative (Giri).

He told New Civil Engineer news editor Lee Kenny about Giri’s work to reduce avoidable error across the construction industry and why he believes changing culture, improving planning and focusing on value rather than cost are essential.

Smith said Giri’s research found around 21% of project costs are attributable to avoidable error, a figure that equated to around £25bn a year across the UK construction industry.

He said Giri has focused on addressing the root causes of error since it was established following an Institution of Civil Engineers (ICE) discussion in 2015.

He said planning is the most significant of Giri’s top causes of error, ranging from strategic planning of projects through to ensuring teams have the right materials, equipment and resources for day-to-day tasks.

“It’s a built-in issue for us to go at,” he said.

“And even if you don’t get the 21%, you get 5%, it’s doubled your margin.”

Smith also discussed the importance of ensuring designs have reached the appropriate level of maturity before construction begins and warned that uncontrolled design changes can lead to avoidable errors.

He said technology should be used to solve clearly identified problems rather than adopted for its own sake.

“It’s a question of getting the right technology to address your particular challenges,” he said.

Looking at the wider industry, he believes creating an environment where workers feel able to raise concerns is vital. And his key message to the sector was to place greater emphasis on value when procuring projects.

“We need to have a different attitude when it comes to cost versus value,” he said.

“The sector needs to be moving towards value procurement.”

This month’s guest is Steve Denton, managing director, civils at WSP. He is vice president of the Royal Academy of Engineering and a fellow of the Institution of Civil Engineers and the Institution of Structural Engineers.

He told New Civil Engineer news editor Lee Kenny about the challenges facing the UK’s ageing infrastructure, the impact of climate change on existing assets and why the way the country maintains its infrastructure needs to change.

Denton chaired the National Engineering Policy Centre working group that produced Reviving our Ageing Infrastructure.

The report concluded that the UK's ageing infrastructure is at a tipping point and Denton identified three factors: the age profile of the UK’s infrastructure, the effects of climate change and the level of reliance placed on infrastructure systems.

“The ageing infrastructure that we have in the UK is at a tipping point,” he said.

“We have got an increasing proportion of our asset base which is getting towards the end of its life.”

He also explained that climate change was placing greater demands on existing infrastructure while also accelerating deterioration.

The interview also examined the consequences of infrastructure disruption. Denton argued that incidents where infrastructure is restricted or closed should be seen as an indication of wider risks rather than simply isolated failures.

The conversation also covered the role of government, regulators and engineers in addressing the challenge. Denton said the National Engineering Policy Centre report contains 15 recommendations across seven areas where change is needed, with action required from multiple parties.

He said he was optimistic about the prospects for implementing the recommendations, pointing to the level of engagement from government and across the infrastructure sector since the report was published.

Finally, he highlighted the skills challenge facing infrastructure management and said the sector needed to “celebrate and raise the prestige” of those responsible for managing existing infrastructure.

The latest episode of the Engineers Collective is out now: listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, your usual platform or via the player below.

This month’s guest is Ben Brittain, director of public affairs at the Association for Consultancy and Engineering (ACE).

He told NCE news editor Lee Kenny about his role and how, when he was transportation adviser to Andy Street, the former Mayor of the West Midlands, he spent many years making the case for HS2 and advising on the Midlands Rail Hub and capital programme spending across the West Midlands.

He shared his personal experience of congestion on the West Coast Main Line, which creates timetabling issues between Birmingham and Manchester.

The poor connectivity between the two cities is symptomatic of the “chronic lack of investment” in Britain’s railway.

He also expressed concern that sequencing the Birmingham–Manchester rail line behind both HS2 Phase 1 and Northern Powerhouse Rail could delay the route into the 2040s.

If that happens, he is concerned it may not happen at all and describes it as a “slow-motion cancellation”.

He compared the domestic rail network with services in Europe, particularly the lack of high-speed trains in the UK.

“If you do travel in Europe as well, you can see how a high-speed rail network is the norm,” he said.

“There are options for high-speed rail and regional or intercity connectivity on conventional rail as well, whereas Britain is hobbled by its Victorian rail infrastructure.”

He said HS2 has been an “embarrassment” and a “blemish” on the UK’s international reputation.

He has concerns that the increasing cost of HS2 may deter governments from embarking on other large-scale infrastructure projects in the future, but that should not be the case.

“I think as a result of HS2 and its problems, we’ve begun to talk ourselves down as a country on our capability of delivering infrastructure,” he said.

“And I don’t buy that story. We deliver world-class infrastructure in this country, and we at times deliver it well.”