They asked him to review the strong points for their church's complementarian conviction. When Pastor Terran Williams did so he was surprised to find the other side had the stronger case! We learn this part of this winsome South Africa pastor's story as well as startling facts of his personal history on this classic replay episode on The Eden Podcast. This is just one of three episodes on Terran Williams. Make sure to find those episodes as well.

He is the author of the book: How God Sees Women, the end of patriarchy.

The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

We and He are ONE! This is the teaching in the key verse of Ephesians 5:32.

WE MUST SEE THE PATTERNS IN PAUL"S USE OF THE PROPHETIC RHETORICAL TEMPLATE. THEN WE SEE PAUL WAS TALKING ABOUT UNITY IN THE JOINT-BODY WITH CHRIST. Then, we see Paul's teaching on Christian spouses discipling one another!

Did Paul really have that many PATTERNS in the passage from Ephesians 5:22-6:9? Oh yes! Those who have missed these patterns act like the blind men who had a hard time describing an elephant. The blind men saw the parts: a wall, a tree trunk, etc. But they missed the living breathing mighty animal.

Go deeper? Yes. See my book, "Beyond Eden" on Amazon available as a paperback, as an eBook and on Audible as an audio book!

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The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

“We and He are one!” That is Paul's message in this beautiful but misunderstood passage in Ephesians 5:22-6:9. The center of Paul's message is 5:32 yet people get off track looking for subordination of wives in the home. Here we focus on the patterns and implications of Paul's message in the Greek text of this famous passage.

We see three three verse numbers in Ephesians 5:19-21 but this is actually a parallelism of four parts: A and A prime are in 19a and 21. B and B prime are in 19b and 20. WE MUST TAKE THE TWO A SECTIONS TOGETHER. WHEN WE DO WE SEE THAT BELIEVERS SUBMIT TO THE TEACHING AND ADMONITION THEY RECEIVE FROM ONE ANOTHER.

In the same way we insert this reciprocal action of building up one another into verse 22 where Paul is speaking about both spouses in a Christian home building up one another!

Go deeper? Read the book "Beyond Eden" with more details and study guides as well for group work. https://a.co/d/02oo5Rrk

The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

The President and CEO of the American Bible Society is this year's recipient of the Tru316 Medallion Award! On this episode, Bruce C. E. Fleming introduces the Medallion Award presentation, followed by a mix of testimonials by ministry leaders from Wycliffe Bible Translators, Missionary Aviation Fellowship and more who honor Dr. Jennifer Holloran, followed by her own words of acceptance at the 2026 event.

You can see a video of the testimonials by these leaders on the Tru316 Foundation You Tube Channel. Here is a link: https://youtu.be/MfFBkBx3gQ4

Go Deeper. We met at the headquarters of The American Bible Society in downtown Philadelphia across the street from historic Independence Hall and the Liberty Bell on the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States! The video of the full event is available here: https://youtu.be/w79qDzJpCWU .

The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Wesleyan educator and author Dr. Ken Schenck on his book, "A Biblical Argument for Women in Ministry and Leadership."

Dr. Ken Schenck is an Asbury Theological Seminary graduate who did his New Testament Ph.D. under James D.G. Dunn at the University of Durham. He is author of more than 30 books and is an ordained minister in the Wesleyan Church. Dr. Schenck taught New Testament and Biblical languages at Indiana Wesleyan University for twenty-two years, where he also served as Dean for nine years. After two years at Houghton University as the Vice President for Planning and Innovation, he is the Provost of Campus.Edu.

The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

WHO'S IN CHARGE? PART TWO. We asked Dr. Christa L. McKirland who is Dean of Faculty and Lecturer in Systematic Theology at Carey Baptist College. Her books include "A Theology of Authority: Rethinking Leadership in the Church" (2025) and "God's Provision, Humanity's Need: The Gift of our Dependence" (2022). Born in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, she currently lives in Aotearoa, New Zealand with her husband, Matthew, and their two children.

The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

WHO'S IN CHARGE? We asked Dr. Christa L. McKirland who is Dean of Faculty and Lecturer in Systematic Theology at Carey Baptist College. Her books include "A Theology of Authority: Rethinking Leadership in the Church" (2025) and "God's Provision, Humanity's Need: The Gift of our Dependence" (2022). Born in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, she currently lives in Aotearoa, New Zealand with her husband, Matthew, and their two children.

The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner