Someone left a comment asking why Kevin didn't just push her off. So let's talk about it.

Also: Who's the greatest of all time, Jordan or LeBron? Are you sure? The chef who yelled at Nick. An unnatural "natural" bodybuilding career. Nick's viral McDonald's video. The episode we deleted. Nepotism. Homophobia in the 90's. Kevin didn't wanna be a caterer.

And then, does Nick have the question that defines our modern era?

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What begins as Kevin's 43rd birthday celebration becomes a thoughtful conversation about gifts, gratitude and belonging. Kevin and Nick talk about the complicated emotions behind giving and receiving presents, the importance of paying attention to the people we love, and why chosen family can be every bit as meaningful as the family we're born into. The conversation then expands into bigger questions: Why does this podcast exist? Aren't there enough podcasts already? Why does Nick hate science? There's birthday cake, a Korean birthday song, Kevin loses his mind over a trading card, and some insights into the future of this podcast. Thanks for watching. Share your experience in the comments—and let us know what makes a gift truly meaningful to you. Email us at dadanddaddyshow@gmail.com or DM us at our Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/dadanddaddyshow

Nick and Kevin get into hot takes this week, and it goes further than either of us expected.

We start with The Odyssey (Kevin sees a men's mental health journey, Nick sees the hero's journey doing quiet damage), get into whether there's any such thing as a good person or a bad person, and end up somewhere genuinely uncomfortable: can you look at a violent man and see any of that in yourself? Kevin shares about a traumatic assault, and Nick is so in love that he starts crying. Literally.

Thank you to Kevin for the honesty in this one.

This episode includes a conversation about sexual assault. If you or someone you know has been affected, support is free and confidential, 24/7: National Sexual Assault Hotline: 1-800-656-HOPE (4673), or text HOPE to 64673, or chat at rainn.org/hotline For men specifically: 1in6.org

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