In Episode 19 of the Business, Brains & BS Podcast, hosts Eric Knam and Greg Sutmiller talk shop with Dani Myers, the CEO and Lead Strategist of Myers Marketing Management.

Dani pulls back the curtain on what it’s actually like to run an agency while staying true to your roots as a "girl from Ohio" who did everything in the "wrong" order. From selling cars and time-shares to managing a full-service marketing team in Tulsa, Dani explains why the most important thing you can give your employees isn't a bonus—it's permission.

About the Guest: Dani Myers is a marketing veteran who built her agency from the ground up. Her firm specializes in full-service strategy for leaders who want to make a real impact in their communities.

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Are you stuck in the "do the work, get paid once" cycle? It’s time to master Leverage—the ultimate business hack for doing the work once and getting paid forever.

In this episode of Business Brains & BS, Eric and Greg break down the "Divide to Multiply" strategy that allowed Greg to grow his therapy practice from a solo operation to a thriving team of 17. Learn how to stop doing "employee work" and start doing "owner work" by focusing on the four pillars of leverage: People, Systems, Marketing, and Money.

Stop working harder and start working smarter. Whether you're an entrepreneur, a freelancer, or a small business owner, these strategies will help you regain your time and increase your freedom.

In this episode of the Business Brains & BS Podcast, we sit down with Erin Renfrow, the founder of EKA/Renfrow Construction. Erin didn't start with a fancy office or a corporate manual—he started by selling roofs as a 1099 contractor. Today, he manages a multi-faceted construction firm, but the journey from "guy with a truck" to "CEO with a copy machine" was anything but smooth.

In this episode, we dive into:

• The "70% Rule": Why entrepreneurs love starting things but hate finishing them—and how to hire people to bridge the gap.
• Managing "Free-Range" Employees: How to track production and location without feeling like "Big Brother" is always watching.
• Family vs. Business: The honest struggle of being a boss to your wife, son, and best friends.
• The "Wonderful, Sad Day": Why getting a real office and a copy machine felt like the end of an era—and the beginning of a real legacy.
• Abdication vs. Delegation: A hard lesson on why handing off a task isn't the same as making sure it gets done right.