Kathy Wetzel is a tech executive, long-time SIM leader, and one of those people who has quietly shaped rooms full of leaders for decades. Armed with both an accounting and computer science degree, her career took her from Honeywell to Great Clips to TASB, the Texas Association of School Board Services, with a few wild pivots in between.

This conversation is packed with real leadership wisdom. Kathy breaks down why change management is a people problem first and a technology problem second, why you need to stop chasing the naysayers and win the people in the middle, and why your HR person should be on your speed dial before you ever have a crisis.

She also talks about building a personal board of directors, succession planning as a leadership essential, and the books that kept showing up for her at every stage of life and career.

Books cited are Don't Sweat the Small Stuff to Crucial Conversations to Who Moved My Cheese,

She closes with a perspective on AI that is grounded and hopeful. She has watched every major tech cycle arrive and create more than it displaced. Her take on the jobs that do not exist yet is worth the listen alone.

This one is for every leader navigating change they did not sign up for.

What do you do when everything you built — suddenly disappears overnight?

That's the real conversation in Episode 6 of The Books That Shaped Me.

Melinda Quiroz spent 11 years building a massive insurance book of business. Then, on March 17th, 2026, that chapter ended — without warning, without a choice.

She calls it her "captive to called" season.

And what she says next stopped me in my tracks:

"I truly would have never seen what my true worth was... until I lost it all."

If you've ever poured your whole self into something — your job, your business, your title — and then had it taken away, this episode is for you.

We talk about:

• Why your gaping hole might actually be cleared space
• The "upper limit problem" from The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks
• Ella Langley's Dandelion album and why Melinda says it was made for this season
• What it means to rebuild — and why rebuilding is NOT failure

Brandon is a well-read servant leader. He has served our country and continues in public service in IT at TX Facilities Commission. He shared about "radical accountability" and how these lessons, that have been hard earned have shown him how to be empathetic while maintaining grit in the face of adversity.

• Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek
• Extreme Ownership and The Dichotomy of Leadership by Jacko Wilkins and Leif Babin
• Hidden Potential by Adam Grant
• The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter
• Think Like A Monk by Jay Shetty