Gary: Welcome to Search the Scriptures 24/7, a radio ministry of The Berean Call with T.A. McMahon. I’m Gary Carmichael. Thanks for joining us. In today’s program, Tom concludes a two-part series with guests Martin and Deidre Bobgan. Here’s TBC executive director Tom McMahon.

Tom: Thanks, Gary. Today’s program - this is a followup, part 2 with Martin and Deidre Bobgan. They are prolific writers; they’ve written more than 20 books, titles, they have papers available, a newsletter…you can download many of their books from their website, which is www.pamweb.org; or you can order the books, the hardcopies, from right here at The Berean Call.

Deidre, Martin, thanks again for being with me on Search the Scriptures 24/7.

Deidre: Thank you. It’s a pleasure and an honor.

Martin: Always a joy to speak with you, Tom.

Tom: You know, last week, as you know - you were there, I was there, okay - if you missed last week’s programs, folks, we established that psychological counseling is not a scientific endeavor. Martin gave you references in his books and other places that you could go for the documentation of what we’ve been saying, and it’s a myth that continues that Christians who are suffering from mental, emotional, or behavioral difficulties, that they need professional help to solve their problems.

Gary: Welcome to Search the Scriptures 24/7, a radio ministry of The Berean Call featuring T.A. McMahon. I’m Gary Carmichael. It’s great to have you with us! In today’s program, Tom wraps up a two-part series with guest Joe Keim as they address the question: Are the Amish Really Christians? Here’s TBC executive director, Tom McMahon.

Tom: Thanks, Gary. Well, this is part 2 of a conversation that I’m having with Joe Keim. The program is about Amish. Joe grew up Amish, as we learned last week, and he’s now a leader in MAP. And MAP is the Mission to the Amish People. Joe, welcome back to Search the Scriptures 24/7.

Joe: I appreciate it, Tom. It’s good to be back and to be able to share some of the things that we’ve shared so far.

Gary: Welcome to Search the Scriptures 24/7, a radio ministry of The Berean Call featuring T.A. McMahon. I’m Gary Carmichael. Thanks for tuning in. In today’s program, Tom launches a two-part series with guests, authors Martin and Deidre Bobgan. Here’s TBC executive director Tom McMahon.

Tom: Thanks, Gary. On today’s program and next week, as well, we’ll be discussing what the Scripture has to say about believers ministering to one another, which, sad to say, is foreign to the way most churches with rare exceptions go about counseling, even under the label of “biblical counseling.” My guests to discuss this important subject are Dr. Martin and Deidre Bobgan. They are prolific writers with more than 20 titles to their credit, nearly all addressing the scriptural problems with psychological counseling and Christian psychology, so-called. Many of their books can be downloaded from their website, which is www.pamweb.org, or you can order their books, their hardcopies, from The Berean Call.

Deidre, Martin, thanks for being with me again on Search the Scriptures 24/7.

Deidre: Well, thank you for inviting us. We always enjoy talking about these issues with you, Tom.

Martin: Yeah, thank you, Tom. It’s always a great pleasure to speak with you and interact.

Tom: The topic for today’s and next week’s program is the Amish and their religious beliefs. Our guest for this two-part series is Joe Keim, who grew up Amish and now is a leader in MAP, which is Mission to Amish People. Joe, welcome to Search the Scriptures 24/7.

Joe: Thank you, Tom. Thank you for the opportunity to join you.

Tom: Joe, I’m guessing – and I think I’m pretty much right here – that most of our listeners are aware of the Amish, but very few know much about them and their beliefs. So I have little doubt that they’ll find our interview quite interesting as well as an encouragement to pray for the salvation of the Amish and for the missionaries who minister to them.

My guest for today – this is part 2 of an interview with my good friend Carl Kerby – and as I mentioned last week, he’s the head of a ministry called Reasons for Hope. He was involved with Answers in Genesis as one of their speakers and, actually, as a founding board member. And I know I keep saying this (because it’s true, folks!), Carl’s one of the best communicators that I know, not just because he’s a fun guy but because of how he presents content. And I’m not a science guy, but if you can help me understand it, you’ve just moved…you’re the man! (Laughing)

So, Carl, we’re going to talk about young people, and we have… So welcome back to Search the Scriptures 24/7.

Gary: Welcome to Search the Scriptures 24/7, a radio ministry of The Berean Call featuring T.A. McMahon. I’m Gary Carmichael. Thanks for joining us! In today’s program, Tom launches a two-part series with guest Carl Kerby as they address the question, “Are Your Kids Hungry for the Truth?” Here’s TBC executive director Tom McMahon.

Tom: Thanks, Gary. My guest for today and next week’s program is my good friend Carl Kerby. Prior to his ministry Reasons for Hope, Carl was a founding board member and international speaker for Answers in Genesis. Carl’s my buddy, but, seriously, folks, he’s one of the best communicators I know dealing with issues related to biblical creation. But his passion is to proclaim the authority and accuracy of the Bible and to engage the minds and hearts of believers and unbelievers in biblical truth, especially young people. Carl, welcome back to Search the Scriptures 24/7.

Carl: Thanks, Tom. It’s always a blessing to be with you guys.

Tom: Well, this is part two of our discussion about issues related to the Roman Catholic Church. But it’s not just about the Roman Catholic Church (but that’s the focus here), and we’ll get into how this goes beyond the Catholic Church. My guest to talk about this is Greg Durel. He’s the pastor of Heritage Bible Church of Gretna, Louisiana, and he has a weekday radio ministry that’s devoted to educating Catholics in biblical doctrine. Greg, welcome back to Search the Scriptures 24/7.

Greg: Thanks for having me, Tom.

Gary: Welcome to Search the Scriptures 24/7, a radio ministry of The Berean Call featuring T.A. McMahon. I’m Gary Carmichael. Thanks for joining us. In today’s program, we begin a two-part series with guest Greg Durel as they discuss the New Catholicism. Here’s TBC executive director Tom McMahon.

Tom: Thanks, Gary. Well, today and next week we’re going to discuss a number of issues related to the Roman Catholic Church, and my guest to talk about this is Greg Durel. He’s the pastor of Heritage Bible Church of Gretna, Louisiana, and he has a weekday radio ministry that is devoted to educating Catholics in biblical doctrine—biblical doctrine. Greg, like me, grew up a Roman Catholic, so he knows Catholicism experientially as well as from a study of Catholic Church tradition and its dogmas.

Greg, welcome to Search the Scriptures 24/7.

Greg: Always great to be with you, Tom.