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  • The league's most cursed franchise, the determiners of floor and ceiling, the merits of Zac Taylor, and more in our final mailbag of the offseason
    2025/07/18

    We're deep into July. Training camp is right around the corner. NFL people have all taken their vacations. It's official...the offseason is over. And with that comes the end of regular TAFS mailbag episodes. In our final mailbag of the offseason, Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen tackle questions on the league's most cursed franchise, the most important non-QB factors for floor and ceiling, Zac Taylor and his merits, Nick Caserio and his merits, one last question on fandom, and a whole lot more.


    Hosts: Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen

    With: Michael Beller

    Executive Producer: Michael Beller

    Producer: Michael Beller

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    Theme song: Haunted

    Written by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love Songs

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    1 時間 8 分
  • The quarterback honorability index
    2025/07/17

    Our own Derrik Klassen loves talking about honorable and dishonorable play across the NFL. Perhaps you've found yourself sitting there saying to your device, 'Hey Derrik, what exactly does it mean to be honorable?' Well, today is your lucky day. Using the quarterback position as a vehicle, Derrik walks through his Honorability Index with Dave Helman on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


    Hosts: Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen

    With: Dave Helman

    Executive Producer: Michael Beller

    Producer: Michael Beller

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    Theme song: Haunted

    Written by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love Songs

    Courtesy of Pure Noise / By arrangement with Bank Robber Music, LLC

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    1 時間 5 分
  • Who's the 6th-best QB in the NFL?
    2025/07/16

    Everyone—literally everyone—people would place Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow among the top-five quarterbacks in the NFL. An overwhelming majority would round out that list with Justin Herbert. Ask 10 people who the sixth-best QB is, though, and you could get 10 different answers. Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen and Dave Helman try to pin who that sixth-best QB is on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


    Hosts: Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen

    With: Dave Helman

    Executive Producer: Michael Beller

    Producer: Michael Beller

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    Theme song: Haunted

    Written by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love Songs

    Courtesy of Pure Noise / By arrangement with Bank Robber Music, LLC

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    1 時間 35 分
  • Inside the fallout surrounding the NFLPA's collusion grievance, with Pablo Torre
    2025/07/15

    Pablo Torre kicked the NFL news cycle into hyperdrive last month in what's supposed to be a relatively quiet part of the calendar when he dropped on his podcast the 61-page ruling behind a collusion grievance filed by the NFLPA against the league. The story has only picked up steam since then, highlighted by news—broken by ESPN last week—of a confidentiality agreement between the league and players union to hide the details of the arbitration decision. So where does all this stand with all 32 teams set to open training camp in a matter of days? Pablo joins Robert Mays to dig into all the details on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


    Host: Robert Mays

    With: Pablo Torre

    Executive Producer: Michael Beller

    Producer: Michael Beller

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    Theme song: Haunted

    Written by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love Songs

    Courtesy of Pure Noise / By arrangement with Bank Robber Music, LLC

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    48 分
  • The teams we can't quite figure out approaching the 2025 season
    2025/07/11

    We spend all offseason watching, considering and analyzing every move every team makes. Despite all that time and critical thought, there are always a handful of teams that we can't quite figure out on the doorstep of training camp. Derrik Klassen and friend of the show Dave Helman highlight the teams that they can't fully pin down on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


    Hosts: Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen

    With: Dave Helman

    Executive Producer: Michael Beller

    Producer: Michael Beller

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    Theme song: Haunted

    Written by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love Songs

    Courtesy of Pure Noise / By arrangement with Bank Robber Music, LLC

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    1 時間 15 分
  • The hopeful stories teams are telling themselves this season
    2025/07/09

    Every year, a handful of teams have to convince themselves that a certain story they've been telling themselves all offseason will turn out to be true. Their success for the coming season hinges on it. One example for 2025...Ben Johnson is exactly what Caleb Williams needs. So what are the other stories that teams are telling themselves as we approach the beginning of training camp? Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen get into them on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


    Hosts: Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen

    Executive Producer: Michael Beller

    Producer: Michael Beller

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    Theme song: Haunted

    Written by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love Songs

    Courtesy of Pure Noise / By arrangement with Bank Robber Music, LLC

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  • Mailbag Monday: Separating player from situation, balancing all-in and patience, remembering our favorite single-season teams, and more
    2025/07/07

    July is here, which means training camps are just a few short weeks away. The football is getting closer, and that's reflected in this week's TAFS Mailbag. Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen answer a bunch more of your questions on this edition, including...How do you separate a player from his situation? How does a competing team correctly balance a desire to go all-in with the patience necessary to build a stable winner? What are your favorite single-season teams in NFL history? What does it mean for a quarterback to be creative? Hear their answers to those questions, and more, on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


    Hosts: Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen

    With: Michael Beller

    Executive Producer: Michael Beller

    Producer: Michael Beller

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    Theme song: Haunted

    Written by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love Songs

    Courtesy of Pure Noise / By arrangement with Bank Robber Music, LLC

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    58 分
  • A 2018 Redraft: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson at the top, and lessons we can learn from this loaded class
    2025/07/03

    Revisiting recent drafts can help inform what we think about the league in the present moment and the ways that teams make decisions. Especially when you've got Dane Brugler at your disposal. Dane joins Robert Mays on this episode of The Athletic Football Show to look back at the 2018 NFL Draft, a class that, in real life, saw Baker Mayfield, Saquon Barkley and Sam Darnold go 1-2-3, Josh Allen land with the Bills at No. 7, and Lamar Jackson taken off the board by the Ravens with the last pick of the first round. How would that draft go with the benefit of hindsight? And what can we take away from what happened then and what we now know?


    Hosts: Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen

    With: Dane Brugler

    Executive Producer: Michael Beller

    Producer: Michael Beller

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    Theme song: Haunted

    Written by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love Songs

    Courtesy of Pure Noise / By arrangement with Bank Robber Music, LLC

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    1 時間 19 分