What happens when you put a masked graffiti artist in front of a microphone and let the conversation go wherever it wants? A LOT. 😂

On this episode of Here's to You, we're joined by Deber, an anonymous artist whose work around the city is about much more than making walls look good. We get into the meaning behind his name, why he takes his art so seriously, and how staying behind a mask lets the work speak louder than the person.

But this conversation goes way beyond graffiti. We're talking about gossip, capitalism, immigration, AI-generated art, and why getting outside your own bubble can completely change how you see the world. Deber doesn't shy away from sharing his opinions, and we definitely don't run out of things to debate.

We also get into the relationship between art and humanity, the pressure to pursue perfection, and a surprisingly deep conversation about morality, religion, and what it means to create your own heaven or hell here on Earth.

And yes, there's plenty of joking around along the way. We wouldn't be Here's to You without it.

This conversation got so good that we had to split it into two parts. Consider this Part 1 of a conversation that proves street art can open the door to some pretty big ideas.

🎙️ Tune in, join the conversation, and let us know which hot take you agree—or disagree—with the most.

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