In Part 2 of our conversation with Jacob Johnson, we continue our exploration of mind control, propaganda, and psychological operations. From MK Ultra and the Manchurian Candidate concept to hypnosis, NLP, and the work of Edward Bernays, Jacob explains how influence and behavioral conditioning may shape both individuals and society at large. We discuss Robert Kennedy, Sirhan Sirhan, media manipulation, and the growing role of psychological warfare in modern culture.

The conversation then turns to some of the most controversial topics in modern history, including Jeffrey Epstein, the Franklin Scandal, the Finders, McMartin Preschool, Iran-Contra, intelligence agencies, blackmail networks, and child trafficking. We examine the connections between power, influence, and information control, and ask what all of these things have in common.

Most importantly, we discuss solutions. Jacob shares why he believes the path forward starts with education, strong families, local communities, self-sufficiency, and a commitment to seeking truth. Our chat with Jacob was a thought-provoking discussion on freedom, consciousness, and the battle for the hearts and minds of future generations. Find more of Jacob's work here:

• https://allmylinks.com/risetoliberty

Relevant Links:

• https://theconversation.com/the-manipulation-of-the-american-mind-edward-bernays-and-the-birth-of-public-relations-44393
• https://www.franklinscandal.com/
• https://bewarethemockingbird.substack.com/p/satanic-panic-part-1-the-decades
• https://truefreethinker.com/intro-to-michael-aquino-paul-vallelys-from-psyop-to-mindwar-the-psychology-of-victory/

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In part 1 of a 2-part episode series, we sit down with Jacob Johnson, host of Rise to Liberty podcast, independent researcher, and former Utah House candidate to explore the hidden forces shaping modern society. What began as a journey into liberty-minded politics evolved into a deep investigation of propaganda, psychological operations, government corruption, and the influence of intelligence agencies. We discuss why local politics are far more important than Washington, D.C., how community involvement has collapsed across America, and why some believe the greatest examples of corruption are happening not in Congress, but quite close to home.

The conversation takes a turn as we examine declassified programs such as MKUltra, Operation Paperclip, and Project Mockingbird. We explore what these programs reveal about government-sponsored behavioral research, the history of propaganda in America, and whether the techniques developed decades ago could still influence society today. Along the way, we discuss Manchurian Candidate theories, hypnosis, neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), psychological conditioning, and the growing debate surrounding surveillance technologies, brain-computer interfaces, and modern information warfare.

Relevant Links:

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owootTAuxic
• https://www.energy.gov/lm/manhattan-project-historical-resources
• https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/static/Review-Operation-Paperclip.pdf

Where to find Jacob Johnson:

• https://allmylinks.com/risetoliberty

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We've talked about Agenda 2030 quite a bit. This week, we consider that the deadline is fast approaching and the countless changes we have already seen because of it. By 2030, the big story may not just be energy or technology itself, but the scale of land conversion behind it. Across solar farms, data centers, forest management, critical minerals, carbon pipelines, and weather modification, millions of acres are being targeted, reshaped, or put under new forms of control. Solar alone already covers hundreds of thousands of acres nationally, with some estimates putting farmland converted for solar at roughly 550,000 to 600,000 acres, and projections going much higher as buildout expands. Data centers are spreading even faster in development terms: more than 1,500 are planned nationwide, many in rural regions, and average site sizes are around 224 acres, with some hyperscale projects reaching far beyond that.

What ties all of this together is the way land is being repurposed for large systems that are described as necessary for clean energy, digital growth, climate resilience, or national security. But on the ground, that often means farmland, forests, and open space are being absorbed into industrial infrastructure, while local communities worry about eminent domain, water use, habitat loss, public health, and loss of control. In that sense, the central question for 2030 is not just whether the projects succeed, but how much land they collectively consume and who ends up bearing the cost of that transformation.

Relevant Links:

• https://nypost.com/2026/05/25/us-news/resistance-grows-against-new-yorks-18-planned-solar-farms-locals-say-ruin-land-kill-animals-and-wont-create-much-energy/
• https://www.sltrib.com/news/2026/05/04/hyperscale-data-center-project/
• https://constructionreviewonline.com/450-mw-substation-approved-for-15b-pennsylvania-digital-i-pax-ai-data-center-in-carlisle/#google_vignette\
• https://westvirginiawatch.com/2026/02/26/d-c-based-real-estate-firm-investing-4b-for-new-data-center-development-in-berkeley-county-wv/
• https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/04/roundup-glyphosate-spraying-forests-monsanto-science-retraction-cancer-health-concerns-maha-trump-executive-order-supreme-court-bayer-lawsuits/
• https://www.trackdatacenters.com/

This is a fight that directly impacts each and everyone of us. It has never been more important to get educated and get involved.

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