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What happens when you find out one of your closest, smartest friends voted for Trump?

On this explosive 2-hour episode of the 12hub Podcast, Hugh confronts his friend Sean about his vote. What follows is a raw, unfiltered, and heated debate that questions everything: friendship, loyalty, accountability, and the future of the country.

With their friend Drew trying to keep the peace, they dive deep into the tough questions:
* Can you separate the vote from the person?
* Is the "system" really broken beyond repair?
* Is Sean a "cynic" or a "realist"?
* Is Hugh a hypocrite for buying Nikes while criticizing a vote?

They debate everything from Kamala Harris and FDR's legacies to Project 2025, ICE raids, the Supreme Court, corporate power, and the rise of the Christian conservative movement.

This is one of the most honest conversations we've ever had. Who do you agree with, Hugh or Shaunn? Let us know in the comments.

(0:00) Intro & Kari's Flooded Kitchen
(1:26) The "Heated Debate" Begins
(2:45) The Big Reveal: "You Voted For...?"
(3:57) Sean's Defense: "I Vote on the Lines of Morality"
(5:43) Hugh's Counter: The Rise of Celebrity Politicians (The Rock, Trump)
(7:43) Drew's Point: Everyone is Talking Politics Now
(10:20) Is Religion Dying With the New Generation?
(14:45) The Kamala Harris "Pandering" Debate
(17:01) Fact-Checking Bill Clinton & the Saxophone
(19:03) Accountability, Project 2025, and Trump's "Project"
(20:50) Sean's Cynicism: "What President Have You Been Proud Of?"
(21:55) "The White Man Did That": Debating America's Foundation
(24:20) The Selma Analogy: Forcing America to See the Ugliness
(25:47) "You Won't Say That!": Hugh's Core Frustration with Sean
(28:02) Sean's Rebuttal: "These Problems Existed Before Trump"
(31:30) Hugh: "I'm Not About Incremental Change"
(34:08) Drew: The Need for Education vs. Indoctrination
(37:48) The "Democrats Started Slavery" Argument
(40:40) The Hypocrisy of $300 Headphones
(43:55) Drew Challenges Sean: Trump Isn't for Capitalism
(45:50) The Stock Market is Just a Casino
(51:17) "How Much Money is Enough?" (Billionaires & Hoarding)
(53:50) Sean's View: "Money Doesn't Exist"
(56:20) Generational Wealth: Sean Buying His Daughter a House
(1:04:17) The Rise of Aggressive Christian Ideology
(1:07:22) The ICE Raid Hypothetical: "What About Your Children?"
(1:08:00) The Smith & Wesson Hat
(1:09:58) The "Justification" Argument (Cheating Wife Analogy)
(1:16:15) "Accountability" vs. "Justification"
(1:24:34) The "Balance of Normality" is Gone
(1:26:33) Drew: "It's Lipstick on the Ugliness"
(1:29:50) Hugh's Core Issue: "You Voted for Trump and Won't Hold Him Accountable"
(1:31:49) The PETA & Fox Coat Analogy
(1:35:10) "The Action of Voting for Donald Trump"
(1:44:37) Drew: "We've Disintegrated Any Ability to Trust"
(1:45:39) How Trump Really Got Power (Lobbying)
(1:51:25) The Power of "The Apprentice"
(1:53:50) The REAL Power: The Supreme Court
(1:56:17) The Great FDR Debate: New Deal vs. Anti-Lynching Laws
(2:01:19) "Do You Believe Lincoln Freed the Slaves?"
(2:05:00) Drew's Question: Where Does Racism Come From?
(2:07:00) The Prison Psyche: Reverting to Race
(2:10:55) Are the Distractions (Mass Shootings, etc.) Not Working Anymore?
(2:13:16) What is a "Cynic"?
(2:15:05) "Opportunity is Nothing Without Access"
(2:20:20) Corporations Run the World (The NBA Contract)
(2:25:10) The Hypocrisy of the Christian Conservative Movement
(2:28:15) Final Thoughts: "Shout out to FDR"

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Shaun is back from Texas with a wild story about buying a house to rent to college kids, but that's not even the craziest part of this episode. We dive into the nonstop "capping" from Fat Joe, the ongoing drama between Young Thug and Gunna, and whether Michael Jordan was a good dad compared to LeBron.

Then, things go completely off the rails when we discover Hugh has NEVER heard of NFL legend LaDainian Tomlinson. 😲🏈 You have to see it to believe it.

Time Stamps:
0:00 - Sean's Back! Welcome to Texas
1:00 - We Bought a Frat House in San Antonio?!
1:45 - The Truth About Texas Property Taxes
4:37 - The Great Checkers & Rally's Bathroom Mystery
5:39 - The 30+ Health Kick: Probiotics, AG1 & Chia Seeds
8:35 - Are Young Black Streamers (Kai Cenat, Speed) Taking Over?
9:15 - THE DEBATE: Was Michael Jordan a Worse Dad Than LeBron?
10:18 - What Ethnicity is Michael Jordan's Wife?
12:19 - Super Bowl Halftime Show Predictions
13:33 - Young Thug is HURT by Gunna's Success
15:36 - R.I.P. D'Angelo & Chadwick Boseman
17:42 - The Diet That's Killing Black People
20:07 - Do Diet Sodas Actually Give You Cancer?
21:45 - Getting Scammed at the Movie Theater Concession Stand
25:21 - Are Movie Theater Nachos Even Real Nachos?
27:33 - Trump's "Vagina Chin" on Time Magazine
30:19 - Is Fat Joe the BIGGEST Capper in Hip-Hop?
36:02 - Why Most Rappers Are Actually Broke
37:30 - T-Pain's "Big Ass Chain" was Ridiculous
42:54 - THE MOST SHOCKING NFL TAKE EVER: "Who is LaDainian Tomlinson?"
49:02 - Does a Championship Define an NFL Player's Career?
52:46 - We OFFICIALLY Broke Him with the LT Debate
55:14 - The John Wick Movies Make No Sense
56:50 - Kim Kardashian FINALLY Opens Up About Kanye
59:06 - My Favorite Kanye West Moment Ever
1:04:35 - The Disturbing D4VD / Davido Controversy
1:13:21 - Final Thoughts & Wrapping Up

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Welcome to Episode 35 of the 12 Hub Podcast! This week, the conversation goes completely off the rails in the best way possible. With Drew filling in for Shaun, no topic is off-limits.

From a hilarious (and surprisingly detailed) debate about which First Lady was the most attractive to the culinary merits of mosquito burgers, this episode is a wild ride. We also get into the nostalgia of 90s streetwear, the golden age of Pizza Hut, and why lobsters are basically just giant sea cockroaches.

In this episode, we cover:

- The decline of modern SNL and comedy.
- Our unfiltered message to Andrew Tate fans and the "manosphere."
- Uncovering Jay Pharaoh's old, cringey battle rap videos.
- The weaponization of the word "woke" in politics.
- Are journalists now just clout-chasers?
- A nostalgia trip: LRG, Ecko, Karmaloop, and classic video games.

Time Stamps:

0:00 Intro & Cold Weather Banter
1:00 Is It Columbus Day or Indigenous Peoples' Day?
1:50 The Harriet Tubman $20 Bill Debate
2:58 Baltimore's Crab Cake Supremacy
5:20 Are Lobsters Just Sea Cockroaches?
8:07 Eating Mosquito Burgers in Africa
9:42 The Truth About Fake Sneakers
10:23 What Ever Happened to the NTWRK App?
13:14 The New Sign of Wealth: Not Carrying Keys
15:35 The Origin Story of the Supreme Gloves
18:37 Is SNL Officially Dead?
21:13 Watching an Old Jay Pharaoh Battle Rap
25:49 Nostalgia Trip: LRG, Ecko, & Karmaloop
26:50 The Downfall of Modern Journalism
29:41 Cringing at Chuck Schumer's YouTube Short
32:13 Calling Out Streamer Destiny
34:32 The Shannon Sharpe Controversy
36:40 The Weaponization of the Word "Woke"
41:15 Dealing with Manosphere Comments
47:09 Why a Woman Not Cooking Isn't a Big Deal
49:45 Our Message to Andrew Tate Fans & Incels
54:50 Debating Which First Lady Was the Hottest
56:12 The Hillary Clinton "Fat A**" Argument
1:00:10 The Problem with "The Good Old Days"
1:01:17 Jewish Culture & "Slave Food" Debates
1:09:00 The Golden Age of Pizza Hut
1:11:15 Modern Gaming Sucks (Microtransactions)
1:14:41 The Most Racist Online Gaming Lobbies
1:18:24 Driving Through "Sundown Towns"
1:28:40 THE GREAT JEFF STAPLE DEBATE BEGINS
1:34:06 Staple vs. Sean Wotherspoon
1:38:33 Mainstream Impact vs. Cultural Impact
1:49:56 Counterpoint: Is Futura Relevant?
1:59:20 Amazon Prime Day Pickups
2:05:18 The Best Over-Ear Headphones: Sony vs. Bose
2:09:24 Are AirPods Max a Scam?
2:17:34 Inside the TikTok "Sneaker Uno" Community
2:22:21 The Dangers of Sneaker Con
2:28:51 Cringey Old YouTube Fits
2:31:21 Final Thoughts & Outro

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Episode 34 of The 12 Hub Sneaker Podcast features a powerful and heartfelt conversation with special guest Dawud Wallace, author of "When A Brother Needs A Friend... Too." Dawud opens up about the inspiration behind his book, sharing profound insights on the importance of brotherhood, navigating trauma, and supporting friends through life's toughest moments—from caregiving for ailing parents to overcoming personal setbacks. Don't miss this raw and real discussion about what it truly means to be there for one another.

Grab your copy of Dawud's book here: https://www.whenabrotherneeds.com/

The crew also dives deep into the hottest and most controversial topics in culture. We're breaking down the Arnold Schwarzenegger scandal you forgot about, Matt Lauer's secret office button, and the spectacular fall of hip-hop mogul Dame Dash. Is he a misunderstood genius or just stuck in the past?

Plus, we get into LeBron James's questionable appearance on Kai Cenat's stream, the ongoing beef between Nicki Minaj and Cardi B, and why R. Kelly, despite his crimes, is still a musical genius.

Time Stamps:

0:00 Intro & The Arnold Schwarzenegger Scandal
3:58 Matt Lauer's Secret Office Button & Media Scandals
6:32 The Downfall of Dame Dash: Is He a Misunderstood Genius?9:03 Reacting to Dame Dash's Cringey TV Show Intro
11:40 Irv Gotti, Lyor Cohen & Burning Bridges in the Industry
13:25 Dame Slapped Harvey Weinstein & Steve Stoute?15:06 Is Hip-Hop Dead? Drake, Post Malone & Doja Cat
15:42 Nicki Minaj vs. Cardi B: Is Nicki Still Relevant?19:14 LeBron James on Kai Cenat's Stream: Cool Dad or Wave Hopper?22:30 Is Bryce James a D1 Player?25:16 Ben Simmons: The Biggest Finesse in Sports History?28:24 Michael Jordan is Joining NBC
33:15 Kanye West's Unhinged New Documentary
35:50 Diddy's Sentencing: Is 11 Years Too Much?38:28 The Mann Act: An Outdated Law?42:14 DEBATE: The World Is Yours vs. Dead Presidents
43:04 Throwback Session: Reacting to Das EFX
48:08 Remembering Jimmy Wopo (Rest in Peace)
52:11 Mariah Carey's Secret 1995 Grunge Album
53:50 Jim Jones' Unshakeable Confidence
59:32 The SMACK DVD Era Was WILD
1:01:47 French Montana's Surprising Career Arc
1:03:35 R. Kelly: Separating The Man From The Music
1:08:53 The Problem With Candace Owens
1:19:16 Obama's Presidency & The Turning Point in Politics
1:27:19 SPECIAL GUEST: Author Dawud Wallace Joins The Show
1:27:25 The Meaning of Brotherhood & Friendship
1:34:01 Dawud Wallace on The Inspiration for His Book "When A Brother Needs A Friend... Too"
1:36:51 The Hardships of Becoming a Man & Losing a Parent
1:42:02 The Importance of Having an Accountable Brotherhood
1:58:34 Do Kids Today Have Real Friendships?
2:05:13 Final Thoughts & Where to Find Dawud's Book

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In episode 33, the guys are fresh off their vacations and have a LOT to say. We're diving into our wild travel stories, from cruising to the Mayan ruins to rocking cowboy hats in the millionaire's playground of Jackson Hole, Wyoming (and a hilarious run-in with a Bill Gates lookalike).

Then, we get into the mess. We break down that viral Dame Dash interview on The Breakfast Club—is he trolling or having a meltdown? We also touch on the latest headlines, from Tekashi 6ix9ine and Charleston White linking up to Trump's embarrassing UN speech and the whole Jimmy Kimmel vs. the FCC drama. Plus, we debate how much money Elon Musk makes per second and whether the new iPhone is already a flop.

It's a packed episode full of laughs, hot takes, and wild stories. Tap in!

Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro & Slang Words That Died ("Fleek" & "Dab")
1:17 Vacation Recap: Cruises vs. Cowboy Hats
2:22 Exploring Ancient Mayan Ruins
3:06 The Montana Experience: Getting Racist Looks in First Class
4:57 Was That Bill Gates Sitting Behind Us?
6:21 The INSANE Real Estate in Jackson Hole, Wyoming
8:22 The One Restaurant to AVOID in Jackson
10:19 Breaking Down Dame Dash's Wild Breakfast Club Interview
13:22 Is Dame Dash Broke? The Irony of His "Boss Talk"
14:27 Tekashi 6ix9ine & Charleston White Link Up
16:07 Crazy Current Events: ICE Shooting Conspiracy?
18:25 Trump's UN Speech & The Jimmy Kimmel FCC Drama
20:45 The Bizarre Spectacle of the Charlie Kirk Memorial
22:47 The Dangers of AI: That Fake Angel Reese Video
25:27 Jimmy Kimmel is Back: We React to the Monologue
28:34 Former FBI Director James Comey Indicted
29:18 Is Our Generation's Struggle Worse Than the 80s?
32:22 The Economy is Crushing Young People
42:02 How Much Does Elon Musk Make Per SECOND?!
50:03 The New iPhone 15 Pro is Already Breaking?
54:28 Halloween Plans, Getting Old & Damaging Our Bodies
58:01 Outro

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The shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk has sent shockwaves, but the aftermath is even more complicated. In this special edition of the 12 Hub Podcast, we dive headfirst into the flood of conspiracy theories, from TikTok sleuths claiming they found the "real" killer to questions about AI-enhanced photos and the suspect's own father turning him in.

But the conversation goes deeper. We explore how this event is a symptom of a much larger issue in America, leading to an intense debate on the very concepts of 'white culture' and 'black culture.' Is Black culture a 'manufactured' result of historical oppression, or an authentic, evolving force? Is 'white culture' even a real thing, or just a collection of appropriated traditions?

Stick around for a heated breakdown of the online rhetoric and a controversial take on victim blaming that sparks a major argument.

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Timestamps (Chapters):
0:00 - Intro: The Aftermath of the Charlie Kirk Assassination
0:45 - Reacting to a TikTok "Face Recognizer" Conspiracy Theory
3:33 - Were the Suspect's Photos Enhanced by AI?
6:00 - The Suspect's Father Tackled and Turned Him In
7:04 - The Discord Messages: Was the Roommate Involved?
10:58 - The Security Detail Conspiracy: Same Guy as Trump's Rally?
16:07 - Desensitized: Society's Reaction to Graphic Violence Online
21:43 - Unpacking the Assassin's Ideology: The Rise of "Groypers"
28:19 - DEBATE START: Is "White Culture" a Real Thing?
30:10 - The Argument: Is Black Culture "Manufactured" by Oppression?
35:30 - Stereotypes vs. Culture: Jewish Lawyers, Soul Food, and Hip-Hop
45:51 - A Cultural Glass Ceiling? How History Shaped Opportunity
51:01 - How Black Culture Evolves and Influences the World
57:16 - The Yankees Analogy: Are All Cultures Manufactured?
1:05:09 - The Case Against a Singular "White Culture"
1:23:26 - HEATED ARGUMENT: A Controversial Take on Victim Blaming
2:08:58 - Final Thoughts

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The crew dives headfirst into the shocking assassination of political commentator Charlie Kirk, sparking a raw and unfiltered debate on political violence, the hypocrisy surrounding mass shootings, and whether dying for your ideology is an "honorable death." The conversation pivots from global tensions to domestic drama, tackling Michael Porter Jr.'s new role as the NBA's biggest snitch and the surprisingly wild statistics on what the Bible Belt is searching for on Pornhub. Plus, the guys discuss Apple's new real-time translating AirPods, the controversy over who can cook a proper adobo, and the latest UFO footage that has Congress talking. From reminiscing about being shot at in the hood to debating the merits of 6ix9ine, this episode is a chaotic and hilarious look at a world on the brink.

Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro: Episode 32, The Magic Number
1:08 - Deep Dive: Unpacking the Assassination of Charlie Kirk
2:33 - The Morality and Aftermath of Political Violence
3:27 - The Eerie Coincidence of the Transgender Mass Shooting Question
5:03 - Is Dying for Your Ideology an "Honorable Death"?
5:50 - Debating Charlie Kirk's Willingness to Face His Critics
8:36 - Political Violence Then vs. Now: From MLK to Today's Culture Wars
9:48 - The Hypocrisy of Right-Wing Reactions to Political Violence
11:15 - Global & Domestic Tensions: Is This a Lynchpin Moment for Society?
13:07 - NBA Drama: Michael Porter Jr. is Snitching on Everyone
14:09 - How Easy Is It to Rig NBA Prop Bets?
15:14 - The Quest to Remember LiAngelo Ball's Rap Song
17:52 - 6ix9ine's New Song & The Morality of Snitching in 2025
19:48 - The Great Adobo Debate: Can White People Cook It?
22:07 - Personal Updates: Travel Plans & Lame New Year's Eve Memories
24:30 - Apple's New Game-Changing Translating AirPods
27:32 - The Rise of Fake AirPod Max Dupes as a Fashion Accessory
30:20 - You're Eating What? Caviar Nuggets & Fancy Food Talk
32:37 - The Looming TikTok Ban & Data Privacy Concerns
35:34 - Billionaire Breakdown: Larry Ellison Overtakes Elon Musk
38:05 - The Psychology of Wealth, Privilege, and "Making It About Race"
42:21 - If the Internet Went Down, What Would You Miss Most?
43:21 - Pornhub Statistics: What the Bible Belt is Really Watching
46:26 - Unpacking the Family Drama in the Movie 'Soul Food'
49:53 - Black Health Concerns vs. Assassination Threats
51:27 - Young Thug vs. Gunna: The Fallout Continues
54:36 - UFOs Are Real? Dissecting New Footage & Congressional Testimony
1:02:03 - Could an Alien Invasion Finally Unify Humanity?
1:06:29 - Hood Credentials: Reminiscing on Growing Up in DC & Baltimore
1:12:18 - Story Time: "The Time I Almost Got Murdered Over a Club Incident"

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In Episode 31 of the 12Hub Podcast, Hugh and Sean hold down the fort while Car is stuck with some mysterious "mandatory overtime." The guys take a trip down memory lane, recalling their first jobs at Staples and McDonald's, the thrill of cracking double-digit hourly wages, and some wild workplace stories from back in the day.

The conversation shifts to the current state of hip-hop, discussing the "snitching" culture surrounding Young Thug, the ongoing drama between Dame Dash and Cam'ron, and Drake's surprisingly candid new persona. They also touch on generational differences, the struggles of going viral on TikTok, and whether it's cheaper to cook at home or just hit the McDonald's value menu. Plus, you won't want to miss Hugh's hilarious interaction with a surprisingly "urban" sounding ChatGPT.

Tune in for a mix of nostalgia, current events, and unfiltered commentary.

Timestamps:

(0:00) Intro & Where's Car?

(0:48) First Jobs & Minimum Wage Memories (Staples, McDonald's)

(2:31) Wild Story: Stealing Computers from the Loading Dock

(3:18) Do Kids Still Work Part-Time Jobs Anymore?

(5:32) Hugh's New Food Blog & The Stigma of Eating on Camera

(6:50) The Great York Peppermint Patty Debate

(8:43) Rant: Fighting with Insurance Companies Over Prescriptions

(10:27) Hip-Hop Talk: Is Young Thug Snitching?

(12:08) Generational Rant: Kids Have It Too Easy Now (Uber, DoorDash)

(14:22) Childhood Memories: Hanging on the Stoop & Almost Getting a Bike Stolen

(17:50) Dame Dash vs. Cam'ron & Dame's Fall from Grace

(21:20) Drake's Interview with Bobbi Althoff & His New "I Don't Care" Attitude

(23:32) Are Rappers Just Actors? The Resurgence of Tekashi 6ix9ine

(25:17) The Cautionary Tale of Bobby Shmurda

(28:35) Classic Movie Talk: Breaking Down a Scene from Menace II Society

(30:34) NFL Season is Back & PJ Washington's Baby Mama Drama

(34:36) The Art of Gift-Giving in a Relationship

(38:19) Hugh's Hilarious Interaction with a "Black" ChatGPT

(41:51) The Struggle of Going Viral on TikTok

(44:34) Is Cooking at Home Cheaper Than McDonald's?

(47:00) The Simple Joys of Adulthood: Buying New Stainless Steel Pans

(48:27) Outro


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