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  • What Sets Us Apart?
    2026/10/19

    Kerry (Ka'u, Hawai'i) and Cody Lucas (Alameda, CA) open Thauma Bonding with the first question of Integrating Thauma: what sets us apart?


    Cody offers the gift and trouble of abstract thought. Kerry lays out Alan Watts' three worldviews, and Cody follows non-duality home to the grandmothers and grandfathers we carry inside us. Along the way: a beach encounter with a man named Art, Charles Eisenstein's Story of Separation, and Kerry's 2018 DMT journey through nine dimensions, where the line of the day arrives: what sets us apart is the act of asking what sets us apart.


    Pain as a signal, hormesis, and the ladder from curiosity to wonder to gratitude to generosity to bliss follow. Kerry tells the story of Aset and a rainbow, sings two original songs, and talks with Cody about AI as an instrument for making music. Next week: desire, and what draws us.


    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Welcome, how we're showing up

    3:15 Root System and the question

    4:43 Cody: the gift and trouble of abstraction

    7:25 Watts' three worldviews: ceramic, dramatic, absurd

    12:50 Non-duality and the ancestors inside us

    19:16 Writing the Zuben Chronicles, grandmothers as muse

    21:10 Art at Carl Smith Beach

    26:44 The Story of Separation, identity vs. entity

    31:02 The way back to unity

    41:04 DMT journey: nine dimensions, the ball of yarn

    47:53 "What sets us apart is the act of asking"

    50:04 Sharing the transmission: book, fiction, Earth Song

    52:14 Pain as a signal, how nature speaks

    1:01:24 Hormesis, and why healing hurts

    1:03:29 Curiosity, wonder, gratitude, generosity, bliss

    1:06:50 Wetiko, the hungry ghost, egregores

    1:11:09 Aset and the rainbow

    1:17:39 Communion with source and the muse

    1:23:55 Song: "Imagiro"

    1:34:30 Singing the Tibetan Book of the Dead to the dying

    1:35:32 Song: "Bow to the Mystery"

    1:42:21 AI as an instrument: Suno and the drum machine

    1:47:01 The face of wonder

    1:51:17 Closing, and next week's topic: desire

    1:53:25 Yessy, outro, invitations to musicians


    LINKS

    Integrating Thauma: https://thauma.kerry.ink

    Yessy: https://yessy.kerry.ink

    Yessy on the App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yessy/id6811156153

    The Zuben Chronicles: https://zuben.kerry.ink

    Substack, Kerry's Ink Inc: https://kerryourself.substack.com

    KRRY 97.5 on Suno: https://suno.com/playlist/f63b96cf-43c5-4e42-aacb-23cbfd1e6b28?sh=ef8NZArVB6hcK4H1

    Support the work on Venmo: https://venmo.com/u/kerryourself

    Also mentioned: Alan Watts, Charles Eisenstein, Ram Dass (Be Here Now), Matías De Stefano, The Golden Ass, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the Dao De Jing.

    Be a guest: DM @kerryourself on Instagram.

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