LA's hottest Clown Boss, Chad Damiani, goes deep into the heart of clown. We go deep and talk about the commodification of performance, the relatability of failing, and what's in a name. We also talk about Connor Storrie's pre Heated Rivalry success, as a perfect darling clown. Join us next week for part two of Chad Damiani.

Shoutouts: Dave Kneebone, Corey Podell, Connor Storrie

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See Chad May 4th at Stand Up and Clown: Netflix is a Joke

See Ilana this week at The Lyric

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Cristina's back update - mysteriously gone. Ilana is getting duped by AI. Cristina is deep in Jiu-Jitsu competitions and Ilana is nursing here multiple injuries but still showing up. Cristina's teacher said, "Fear is 10 feet long, 10 feet wide, and paper thin," so maybe bust through that paper! Or rest, you do you!!!

Ilana and former guest Alisha Gaddis are putting up a show Thursday, April 23rd, 7:30 pm. TICKETS HERE

Shoutouts: New Vision Optometry,

Endorsements: Ocean Vaughn,

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Here's the video I said I wasn't going to put out: VD Jance

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Psychologist and author Dr. Ingrid Clayton joins Ilana and Cristina to share how her own complex PTSD led her to write, "Fawning: Why the Need to Please Makes Us Lose Ourselves--and How to Find Our Way Back." These three delightful recovering fawners have a powerful conversation that illuminates how fawning happens and how to widen your window of tolerance, grow, and accept where you're at. The move towards "unfawning" takes work, can feel bad, but curiosity can start to get you back in contact with your own body and self. . . maybe for the first time.

Also, fuck Epstein and how the women who have spoken out are being treated. We see you Pam, and we think you're a raging cunt.

Shoutouts: Erin McAnoy, Michelle Villemaire, Resmaa Menakem's "My Grandmother's Hands,"

Endorsements: REST! Not because you're burn out but rest for rest's sake, easy STRETCHING, and CURIOSITY

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Ilana and Cristina get high on Ed...education that is! And they explore the metaphysical side of life - mostly through Ilana's dog. No matter what your beliefs, it's clear that mother nature has the coolest shit out there; schools of fish, trees that communicate through intricate fungi networks and duck-bill platypuses. I mean what even are they?! Life is wild.

Shoutouts: Fran Tait Pet psychic, Telepathy Tapes, Laura Lynn Jackson's Signs, LTC

Endorsements: Rosalia, Bad Bunny, Putumayo

Send us your PSYCHICS!!!

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Podcast and radio legend Phil Hendrie joins big time radio lovers Ilana and Cristina. They're all flying high on Wellbutrin and L-Theanine. Listen in as they talk about control, crying, and doing silly voices for sanity.

Shoutouts: Easy Rider, Apocalypse Now, Clockwork Orange. The Pitch, Liam Sullivan

Endorsements: Nichiren Buddhism, Creatine, Hendrie Documentary,

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Garden Gnomes, Tasers and Floppy Cheese... what are your phobias? We'd love to hear from you. Ilana has loose fears about dropping her keys down a hole. Cristina hates your mouth noise with a passion. Koro syndrome is not common but would make a fun film! There is so much toxicity out there (our government, our salad), but here at That's So Mental we hope we help you laugh at all of it, because we are all on the same rock flying through space and what is life anyway?!

Shoutout to previous guest: Dr. Alisa Angelone, Ilana's cheese fearing brother Ari, Ab Fab,

Endorsements: What We Can Know by Ian McEwan, Gratitude Lists

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Comedy legend, Margaret Cho joins Ilana and Cristina to chat; growing old, daily practices, and wtf is going on in the world. Despite feeling jammed full of Wagyu, Margaret is also jammed full of insights. She shares with us her daily practices of writing, meditating, and animal caregiving.

Shoutouts: Margaret's Tour: Choligarchy, Sundance Films; Run Amok, and I Want Your Sex, Ryan Langer's Mourning songs

Endorsements: SLEEP! Going to bed early, Chani - for all your horoscope needs, and Staring at the Wall.

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Cristina and Ilana are here and living that hot gratitude life! Broken bodies and all. Cristina recommends Xanax while time traveling aka getting an MRI, Ilana can't wait to recommend things to you that she can not recall any of the details of. Lucky for you, there are links below to all the great things bouncing around their brains.

Shoutouts: Ingid Clayton, Sofia Isella doing great things for the young ladies, Lisa Gilroy's night time routine

Endorsements: Shaking hands with conviction, Not telling girls to smile, Happy Sol Red Light Mask, Breville Bambino Espresso Machine

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