What happens when a journalist responsible for telling the truth becomes part of the story? This week on That Said, Talia Schlanger explores the ethical dilemmas facing journalists and the challenges of reporting in an age when even the most nuanced reporting can be twisted into outrage.

Talia speaks with director Adam Arkin and actor Mireille Enos about American Hostage, a new series based on the extraordinary true story of a journalist caught in the middle of a deadly standoff and the impossible choices that come with being both a reporter and a participant in the crisis.

Then, for Article Club, Talia talks to The Atlantic staff writer Michael Scherer about his essay “My Role as a 'Complicit' Journalist,” and what it means to report the truth when your words can be taken out of context, weaponized online and used to fuel real-world consequences.

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Why are some of the world’s biggest boy bands choosing not to enter the Grammy Awards' new category for "Best Asian Pop Music Performance"? This week on That Said, Talia Schlanger explores K-pop’s global success, the artists who helped build it, and the debate over how that success is recognized.

Talia talks to filmmaker Sue Kim about Always Lalisa, her documentary following Lisa of Blackpink as she steps out on her own, takes creative risks and reveals a more unfiltered side of herself.

Then, for Article Club, Talia speaks with BBC journalist Jiji Ahn about her article, "Before BTS and Blackpink, there was Big Bang: Now the Kings of K-pop are back". They explore how Korean artists found an audience around the world by staying true to their sound and identity, and why BTS and Stray Kids are refusing to submit themselves for the upcoming Grammys.

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This week, Talia Schlanger speaks with journalist and author Kathryn Jezer-Morton about her new book, The Story of Your Life: How Social Media Shapes the Way We Experience Everything. From the carefully constructed versions of ourselves we share online to the endless scroll that can leave us feeling inadequate, Kathryn examines how social media has changed the way we experience identity, comparison, and everyday life.

Then, for Article Club, The Atlantic staff writer Kaitlyn Tiffany joins Talia to discuss her article, How to Lose $12 Billion and Still Win. They unpack Meta’s landmark settlement over allegations that its platforms harmed young people, what the company has agreed to change, what it hasn’t, and whether the settlement represents a meaningful shift in the way social media platforms operate.

Two conversations about the stories we tell online, the platforms that shape those stories, and what happens when technology becomes part of how we understand ourselves and each other.

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What do fathers pass down to their children—and what does it take to break the patterns we inherit?

This week, Talia Schlanger speaks with filmmaker Hubert Davis about his new hockey film Youngblood, a story about a gifted young player and his complicated relationship with his demanding “hockey dad.” Davis reflects on masculinity, fatherhood, the expectations we place on young men, and the lessons he inherited from his own father, a Harlem Globetrotter. He also talks about his documentary Black Ice, his longtime friendship with filmmaker Charles Officer, and the importance of seeing new stories and perspectives represented in hockey.

Then, for Article Club, The Atlantic staff writer Faith Hill joins Talia to discuss her article The Growing Cohort of Single Dads by Choice. They explore why some men are deliberately choosing fatherhood without a partner, what this growing trend reveals about changing ideas of masculinity, and why fatherhood can offer men a powerful sense of purpose and fulfillment.

Two conversations about fatherhood, masculinity, identity, and the stories we inherit—and the ones we choose to change.

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A decade after The Tragically Hip's unforgettable final concert with Gord Downie, Rob Baker and Paul Langlois look back on one of the most emotional moments in Canadian music history. Freshly inducted into the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame, the band's longtime guitarists reflect on saying goodbye to their friend and bandmate Gord, the pressure and purpose of that final tour, and the enduring mystery of Gord's songwriting.

Then, for Article Club, Anishinaabe scholar and writer Riley Yesno joins Talia to discuss her Walrus article, A Fundamental Aspect of Reconciliation: Giving Back Stolen Land. Ahead of Truth and Reconciliation Day, Riley examines Canada's progress on the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's Calls to Action, the meaning of "land back," and the lasting impact of Gord Downie's advocacy for Indigenous peoples.

A conversation about music, memory, reconciliation, and what it means to leave a legacy.

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What does Survivor reveal about human nature — and what happens when reality TV becomes more real than we expect?

This week, Talia Schlanger sits down with two-time Survivor contestant, fan favourite, and author Stephen Fishbach. From the psychological toll of voting people out to the complicated ethics of reality television, Fishbach reflects on what it's really like to compete on one of the most influential shows of the last 25 years. He also shares a pivotal moment in the show that inspired him to finally pursue his dream of writing fiction, leading to his debut novel, Escape.

Then for Article Club, Danielle Lindemann joins Talia to discuss her Globe and Mail article: How Survivor changed television - and our culture - forever. It's an exploration of Survivor's cultural legacy and the enduring appeal of watching strangers navigate trust, betrayal, power, and belonging on television. Why are we so drawn to reality TV? What does it reveal about us? And where's the line between entertainment and exploitation?

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For years, Rick Campanelli has been one of Canada's most recognizable TV personalities—charming audiences on MuchMusic, ET Canada, and now Breakfast Television. But behind the scenes, he was fighting a secret gambling addiction that threatened his career, finances, relationships, and future. In this candid conversation, Rick opens up like never before in his new memoir, Tempted, about the highs, the devastating lows, getting arrested, hitting rock bottom, and the people who helped pull him back.

Then on Article Club, award-winning actor, musician and writer Rebecca Auerbach discusses her moving CBC essay about sobriety, healing, and how a 100-pound German Shepherd named Archer helped her find purpose, routine, and a new way forward after addiction.

Two powerful stories about recovery, resilience, and the people—and pets—who help us find our way back.

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As summer draws to a close, the season has offered powerful reminders of nature's force—from extreme heat to devastating wildfires. In this episode of That Said, Talia Schlanger speaks with two extraordinary guests whose lives have been shaped by deep, transformative relationships with the natural world.

First, author and journalist Trina Moyles joins us to discuss her book Black Bear and the article she adapted for The Walrus, What a Standoff with a Black Bear Taught Me About Life in Northern Alberta. Trina shares how a chance encounter with a black bear evolved from fear into fascination, challenging everything she thought she knew about coexistence, risk, and the wilderness.

Then, Talia speaks with legendary mountaineer Mingma Tsiri Sherpa, who has summited Mount Everest an astonishing 19 times. Widely regarded as one of the world's greatest high-altitude climbers, Mingma recounts surviving the catastrophic 2015 Nepal earthquake while on Everest and explains why, after retiring from the mountain, he felt compelled to make one final climb—not for glory, but to recover the bodies of fellow Sherpas who never made it home. His story is featured in the powerful documentary Everest Dark.

Together, these conversations explore courage, loss, fear, stewardship, and the profound respect required to live alongside forces much larger than ourselves.

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