Dawn Friedman MSEd interviews Dr. Roxanne Daleo, an expressive arts and somatic therapist who works with kids and families. Daleo describes her early work with hospitalized and terminally ill children and how training at Harvard, including Dr. Herbert Benson’s relaxation-response research, shaped her focus on the mind-body connection and breath. She explains expressive arts therapy as a nonverbal, right-hemisphere approach using music, rhythm, imagery, drawing, painting, and other art forms, emphasizing process over product and why it can fit children who resist talk therapy. Daleo discusses somatic principles, psychoneuroimmunology, and examples from hospital settings where imagery and art supported calming and healing. She shares practical techniques for parents, guided imagery storytelling, resources on her website, and a free “Head and Heart Anxiety Reset” call.

00:00 Introduction

02:21 Roxanne's Origin Story

05:28 What Are the Expressive Arts?

07:37 Why Expressive Arts Over Talk Therapy for Kids

08:20 Somatic Work & the Mind-Body Connection

28:26 Working with Perfectionist Kids

31:53 Storytelling & Guided Imagery

40:42 Breathing & the Holistic Approach

44:58 Resources & How to Connect with Dr. Roxanne

Download Dr. Daleo's story, The Magic Seed: Courage as an mp3:

http://drroxannedaleo.com/roxanne_daleo_magic_seed_1.mp3

Her website is at: http://drroxannedaleo.com

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🌟 READY TO FIND YOUR ROOM TO BREATHE?

Parenting has never been more challenging especially for empathetic parents of sensitive kids. TELL ME IT WILL BE OK: The Practice is a weekly, guided practice that gives quiet, calm, reflective space for you to connect with your wisdom and intuition. For July, we're writing about and exploring the topic of ANGER -- ours, our own, and what we are trying to understand about it. 🧡 This is not a list of things you’re doing wrong. 🧡 This is not advice. 🧡 This is a place to remember what you already know. Learn more and get a free session by going to OpenBookParenting.com

Dawn Friedman hosts a solo episode of the Tell Me It Will Be OK podcast for parents raising anxious kids, challenging the belief that good parenting should feel good and arguing that struggle, conflict, and insecurity can be normal signs that an approach needs to change as children grow. She emphasizes that parents can’t control kids’ feelings or behavior—whether a child falls asleep or feels anxious belongs to the child—so the work is to focus on what parents can control, avoid codependent attempts to force change, and use frustration as information to clarify values, boundaries, expectations, and strategies. Using bedtime and sleeping alone as an example, she describes planning for worst-case scenarios and viewing growth as an ongoing process for both child and parent. She also announces “Tell Me It Will Be OK: The Practice,” a weekly guided journaling private podcast with a community, launching July 6, $25/year at OpenBookParenting.com.

00:00 Introduction

05:53 Understanding Child Anxiety

06:46 The Bedtime Deep-Dive

12:34 Parenting Is For Parents Too

19:23 Tell Me It Will Be OK: The Practice

Mentioned in this episode:

🌟 READY TO FIND YOUR ROOM TO BREATHE?

Parenting has never been more challenging especially for empathetic parents of sensitive kids. TELL ME IT WILL BE OK: The Practice is a weekly, guided practice that gives quiet, calm, reflective space for you to connect with your wisdom and intuition. For July, we're writing about and exploring the topic of ANGER -- ours, our own, and what we are trying to understand about it. 🧡 This is not a list of things you’re doing wrong. 🧡 This is not advice. 🧡 This is a place to remember what you already know. Learn more and get a free session by going to OpenBookParenting.com

Dawn Friedman welcomes Dr. Melissa Giglio, a CBT therapist and director of Central Health Partners Child Development in Hong Kong, to discuss selective mutism (SM). Giglio explains SM as an anxiety disorder in which children who speak fluently at home are persistently unable to speak in specific settings, often mistaken for stubbornness, and distinguishes shyness from social anxiety and SM using persistence and functional impairment. They emphasize collaborating with schools, using gradual exposure without “rescuing,” helping children habituate, and coaching parents to stay calm, supportive, and non-accommodating while building distress tolerance and confidence. The conversation addresses anxious parents, concerns about traumatizing exposure, demand avoidance and providing perceived control with continued expectations, common comorbidities (including ADHD), when medication may help, and the need for evidence-based, systemic treatment involving parents and schools. Giglio shares resources (Bravery Grows book, a six-month journal) and intensive one-to-one camps in Hong Kong and Maine, plus outcomes when SM is untreated.

00:00 Podcast Welcome

00:17 Meet Dr Giglio

01:47 What Is Selective Mutism

02:44 Why The Name Changed

03:37 Misconceptions And Oppositionality

04:22 How Parents First Notice

05:23 Shy Vs Social Anxiety

06:53 When Anxiety Becomes Persistent

09:43 Supporting Exposure Without Rescue

11:55 Handling Meltdowns And Tiny Steps

13:27 Anxious Parents And Trauma Fears

16:12 PDA And Demand Avoidance Nuance

20:00 Comorbidity And Medication Questions

22:23 Overlearning Through Exposure

22:54 Finding Proper SM Treatment

23:47 Parents As Co Therapists

27:08 Coaching Without Accommodating

28:15 Books And Journals Tools

31:25 Intensive Exposure Camps

33:37 Wins And Progress Stories

35:16 Risks Of Late Identification

37:23 Let Kids Do Hard Things

Working with Dr. Giglio at Main Child Therapy Center

Grab her book, Bravery Grows

Follow her on Instagram

Mentioned in this episode:

🌟 READY TO FIND YOUR ROOM TO BREATHE?

Parenting has never been more challenging especially for empathetic parents of sensitive kids. TELL ME IT WILL BE OK: The Practice is a weekly, guided practice that gives quiet, calm, reflective space for you to connect with your wisdom and intuition. For July, we're writing about and exploring the topic of ANGER -- ours, our own, and what we are trying to understand about it. 🧡 This is not a list of things you’re doing wrong. 🧡 This is not advice. 🧡 This is a place to remember what you already know. Learn more and get a free session by going to OpenBookParenting.com