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Station 4 Negotiation

Station 4 Negotiation

著者: Gene Killian
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Station 4 Negotiation: where real stories unlock powerful negotiation strategies. Hosted by Gene Killian, a trial lawyer with 40 years of experience, we skip the gimmicks and distill practical lessons from real-world deals. Understand the art of negotiation through stories, not lists of rules. Here, you'll find practical insights that will help you communicate, collaborate, and close deals with confidence... and change the way you approach every conversation. Remember: negotiation is life.2023 経済学
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  • #69 – The Price Is The Price: How to Negotiate Without Lying to Your Customer
    2026/10/06

    If you're going to buy one book on negotiation this year, make it this one.

    Most price negotiations begin with a lie. Each side asks for more than it expects to get, both sides know it, and the rest is a slow shuffle of offers, counteroffers, and "that's the best I can do." Todd Caponi's book Four Levers Negotiating asks a simple question: what happens when one side stops playing that game?

    This week on S4N, Gene digs into Caponi's system. Caponi wrote his framework for B2B sellers up against corporate procurement, and he's modest about how far it reaches. Gene thinks he's selling it short. As he walks through one of the book's stories, about a frustrated buyer who insists on monthly billing because that's how everyone does it, he shows that Caponi's approach works well beyond the sales call. The moves that close the deal are the same ones great negotiators have always relied on, from FBI hostage negotiators to diplomats. They just happen in a different room.

    You've been on both sides of this. The counterpart who's venting but sounds like they're attacking. The "policy" that turns out to be habit. The discount you gave away before you'd thought it through. Being straight about how your price is built doesn't weaken your position. It may be the strongest position you have.

    A special thank you to our friend Professor Jeff Hoyle of Central Michigan University for putting this book in Gene's hands.

    Remember: negotiation is life.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    • Four Levers Negotiating: The Simple, Counterintuitive Way to Higher Deal Values and Lasting Trust by Todd Caponi (Matt Holt Books, 2026)
    • Jeffrey Z. Rubin, "Negotiation: An Introduction to Some Issues and Themes," American Behavioral Scientist, Vol. 27, No. 2 (1983)
    • Station 4 Negotiation Episode #9 – Brains Over Brawn: When Getting Frustrated Gets You Nowhere (May 21, 2024)
    • Gene's email: gene@station4negotiation.com
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    28 分
  • #68 – Working 9 to 5: How to Negotiate Like Dolly Parton
    2026/09/22

    In 1974, Dolly Parton was 28 and had just left The Porter Wagoner Show to go solo. As her going-away song, she had just written the now-iconic "I Will Always Love You." Then Colonel Tom Parker, Elvis's famously shrewd manager, called: the King wanted to record it. Could she be at Studio B tomorrow? She said she "went out of her mind." But the afternoon before the session, the Colonel called back with one more thing.

    This week on S4N, Gene works through that phone call using Martha Ackmann's new biography Ain't Nobody's Fool: The Life and Times of Dolly Parton. He looks at why the other side wants you emotionally committed before any terms are discussed (Gene calls it the "puppy first" technique), why the biggest demand so often shows up at the last minute, and what changes when you're dealing with a gatekeeper instead of the person who decides. Then he takes the same questions to two very different arenas, one of them his own practice, where the answers were harder than they looked.

    So that the next time a deal feels done, you'll know to ask one more question: leaving emotion aside, is this in my best interest, both now and years from now?

    Remember: negotiation is life.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Ain't Nobody's Fool: The Life and Times of Dolly Parton by Martha Ackmann

    Dolly Parton's Imagination Library

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    30 分
  • #67 – Talk Is Cheap: Four Problems Every Dealmaker Runs Into (On Both Sides of the Table)
    2026/09/08

    Usually, almost nothing about how the other side of a deal actually thinks survives into the record. The Paris Peace Accords are the rare exception. Both governments kept meticulous records of the whole ugly business, a lot of it has since been declassified, and the historian Pierre Asselin — whose book A Bitter Peace is the source for this episode — got into the North Vietnamese archives as well as the American ones. All of that makes the Paris negotiation an unusually clean look at four problems every dealmaker eventually runs into, with the internal reasoning of both sides sitting right there on the page.

    This week on S4N, Gene works through Paris as a negotiation, not as a verdict on the war, on the men who ran it, or on anyone's politics.

    First, what getting tough actually buys you. One side escalated hard to break a stalemate, and it worked — the other side came back to the table. Then they signed essentially the document they had already agreed to months earlier, and the escalation cost the man who ordered it dearly at home. So did it work? Gene's answer is more useful than yes or no. There's a specific thing you should be pricing an aggressive move against before you make it, and almost nobody does.

    Second: we've talked plenty on this show about identifying the party who can kill your deal from outside the room. This episode is about what comes after. Gene explores how to close a counterpart who has nowhere left to go and, moreover, what actually becomes of an objection you override. (Hint: it doesn't disappear.)

    Third: retrading. Both sides here reopened terms they had already closed, until the pattern got almost farcical — nine concessions made, withdrawn, and six of them made again. Most people's instinct is to match the other side move for move. Gene's fix is structural instead, and it has to be in place before anyone touches a settled term.

    And lastly: enforcement — where the first two ideas collide. This agreement had no shortage of implementation machinery: commissions, protocols, field teams, 1,100 monitors. It was built to fail, and the flaw is visible in the design if you know what you're looking at. The same flaw had already failed in Vietnam once before, for eighteen years, and they built it again anyway. Gene replaces "how will this deal be implemented?" with a sharper question, and adds one worth asking about any oversight structure you're handed.

    Smaller stakes, same shapes. The term you thought was settled, back on the table because you opened the door first. The compliance sign-off that requires everybody to agree, which means it requires the one person who'd rather it didn't happen. The concession you won by force that shows up again during delivery. This episode handles how to deal with all of it.

    Remember: negotiation is life.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    • A Bitter Peace: Washington, Hanoi, and the Making of the Paris Agreement by Pierre Asselin
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    58 分
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