Kevin Leomo is a very busy man. He spends his time working a full-time community engagement job, organising arts festivals (like the award-winning Creatives of Colour Festival), making experimental music and as a community organiser, fighting the good fight in Glasgow's cultural scene. In this episode, Kevin joins Zara to tackle one of the biggest questions “Spiralling” has covered to date: why are some people still in denial about racism in Scotland?

From Scottish exceptionalism to the reality of everyday racism, Kevin shares his experiences growing up between California and Scotland and reflects on a recent racist attack in Glasgow. Along the way, we discuss the power of food and culture, a difficult encounter with strangers in Luxembourg and what meaningful allyship actually looks like.

Plus, we discuss a dilemma presented by previous guest Susan Riddell: is the Irish goodbye rude, or is it self-care? And Zara rambles about her weekend and the epic Freakender festival.

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Comedian and writer Susan Riddell has had an unusual year. After an alleged incident at an Edinburgh weapons factory (that makes laser-targeting components found in fighter jets used by Israel), she found herself under strict bail conditions, banned from Edinburgh and facing a terrorism charge and trial that still hasn’t happened.

Fresh from having some of those restrictions lifted, Susan joined Zara to discuss house arrest, solitary confinement, activist burnout, and why she’s now questioning her identity as a comedian.

We also spiral into comedy confidence, whether personal politics can work on stage and a failed attempt to secure a free holiday by rabbit-sitting in Barcelona.

A good news disclaimer: since our conversation, Susan’s terrorism charge has been dropped. But she is still awaiting trial for other charges.

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Edinburgh-based comedian, actor, ex-raver and soon-to-be drama teacher Sophie Rose McCabe shares a problem close to her heart: how do you date in your 40s? From Tinder etiquette and endless talking stages to childcare logistics, we dive into the realities of dating as a millennial separated parent.

We also discuss comedy as a route to reclaiming your identity post-motherhood and why giving birth is surprisingly good preparation for stand-up. Plus, a controversial theory about social media polarising the dating game for everyone.

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Watch Good for Her on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m002fzvl/good-for-her

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Cheshire-based comedian Ski has built an audience of hundreds of thousands through his online sketches and viral characters alongside his comedy partner Durk (of Durk & Ski). But no matter how much success he finds, Ski always seems to want more. From chasing viral views and creative ambition to health anxiety and ageing, Ski joins Zara for a surprisingly philosophical conversation about finding contentment in life. Along the way they discuss voice note etiquette, a food-related relationship breakdown and a Lake District dream.

PLUS: Zara hunts for an Aperol Spritz at an undisclosed Italian location.

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Standup and online sensation Kim Blythe is used to the limelight: but on her own terms. Since inadvertently being caught on camera (cycling on her beloved Voi bike), Kim has been spiralling over the modern age of surveillance. Why is Kylie Jenner promoting “pervert glasses”? How do we protect our privacy when everyone has a camera? And was “Black Mirror” actually a documentary? We discuss Kim’s meteoric rise through the Scottish comedy scene, therapy, internet fame and her very legitimate painting-and-decorating business.

PLUS some randoms from Zara about unsolicited Fringe reviews and what 3 stars really means...

See Kim at the Fringe this August: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/kim-blythe-puzzle

Missing the Fringe? You can also catch Kim on her autumn tour, come to a city near you. Full details on: https://kimblythe.com/

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Irish comedian and actor Michael Fry (@bigdirtyfry) is conflicted: on the one hand, the internet has allowed him to carve out a successful comedy career (from TV roles in Derry Girls and No Worries If Not to his own series on BBC Sounds). But on the other hand, his phone addiction is turning his brain to mush. From watching TikToks on a giant unwieldy iPad to preemptively blocking trolls, Michael and Zara (@zanyzaz) discuss strategies for resisting the relentless pull of the internet. Plus, irrational childhood fears, musical comedy as a safe space and a guy who keeps eels in his basement.

Listen to 'Lunchtime with Michael Fry' on BBC Sounds; the new series drops on 5 September 2026: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m002085j

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Fresh from the set of Frankie Boyle-penned crime drama Meantime (starring James McAvoy), TV producer Laura Ferguson joins Zara with a spiral that has bugged her for years: why do people still play a certain moonwalking pop star?

Michael Jackson made some undeniable bangers. But can we ever separate the art from the artist?

Plus: what a producer actually does, surviving Scottish filming conditions and the art of girl math.

• Meantime is scheduled to premiere on Sky in 2027
• See Zara at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe for one night only on Wednesday 12 August 2026: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/zara-gladman-is-aileen-cameron-s-gap-year-fundraiser
• 'Think Twice: Michael Jackson' is a podcast that takes a deep dive on the Michael Jackson story, including the allegations: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/introducing-think-twice-michael-jackson/id1692238236?i=1000616710436

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Filmmaker Martin Clark takes time out from polishing off his feature film “Public House” (set in Glasgow pub, Heraghty's) to share a spiral that's followed him for years: what if it feels like you're always playing catch-up? What if you're ten years behind your creative peers?

We discuss growing up in “the arsehole of Scotland”, his creative process, being a late bloomer in the world of film, and the complicated business of calling yourself an artist. Plus: the delicate balance between self-belief and self-delusion, why Glasgow’s music scene has been such an inspiration - and a very rude dinner party guest.

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