Twenty-five years later, 9/11 still rewires how we see fear, community, and what America owes itself.

This anniversary conversation brings together Robert Herr, Ken Arnold, Ryan Thomas, Eric Donaldson, and Rowan Michael for a raw, wide-ranging reflection on where each of them was when the attacks happened - and why the memory still lands so hard.

What starts as remembrance quickly becomes something bigger: a real conversation about how trauma shapes a generation, how first responders and families lived through the chaos, and why the days after 9/11 revealed the best of people when the country could have easily fractured. The group also looks at how the meaning of the day has changed for younger Americans, what gets lost when history turns into memes, and why unity feels harder to find now than it did then.

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One forgotten New Hampshire murder. One local filmmaker, a trailer, and a story that might be bigger than he ever imagined. Matthew Eames is building Roots of New Hampshire from the ground up, and this episode follows the project from eerie archive discoveries to the real-world clues that could turn a buried family secret into a full documentary.

Matthew joins Robert Herr and Ryan Thomas for a wide-ranging conversation that starts with pop culture chaos and lands somewhere much more compelling: the obsession, discipline, and stubborn curiosity it takes to chase down a true story before it disappears. Along the way, Matthew opens up about his years in film, the unlikely path that took him from haunted houses and special effects into productions like Southpaw, Concussion, Fences, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom, Army of the Dead, and Mindhunter.

You’ll discover:

• how Matthew found the deathbed confession that kicked off the Whitcherville mystery
• why the old letters, photos, and local records matter more than a polished theory
• what he learned filming his first interviews and why documentary storytelling is harder than it looks
• how his background in props, makeup, and set work shapes the way he builds atmosphere now
• what it takes to launch a one-man historical project with little gear, a drone, a Sony A6000, and a growing audience

If you’re drawn to local legends, real-life mysteries, or the hard grind of turning art into something people can actually watch, this one delivers.

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Forty trillion dollars in debt, a shaky Israel-NATO conversation, and a real question nobody in Washington wants to answer: what happens when the bill finally comes due?

Ryan Thomas and Robert Herr rip into the headlines, the math, and the performative politics driving America deeper into the hole.

They start with the absurdity of Darth Vader showing up at the San Diego City Council to defend surveillance cameras, then pivot into Trump, North Korea, and the growing sense that U.S. foreign policy is being shaped by ego, obedience, and alliance drama instead of strategy.

From there, the conversation turns into a brutally honest breakdown of the national debt, war spending, and the systems that keep the country stuck. You’ll hear why a flat tax still does not fix the problem, why cutting the Department of Education and the IRS barely moves the needle, and why “growing our way out” of $40 trillion may be a fantasy.We also get into housing supply, regulation, fiat currency, and why real estate values - like money itself - are only worth what someone is willing to pay.

Ryan and Robert connect the dots between debt, scarcity, tax policy, and the housing crisis in a way that is sharp, funny, and frustratingly believable.

Along the way, they dig into music industry predation, old-school record label horror stories, the weird new wave of artists reclaiming their masters, and a little chaos from social media, Tim Pool, and the ongoing war between people who actually pay attention and people who just comment.

Essential listening if you want a fast, funny, unfiltered take on debt, power, foreign policy, and why everybody keeps pretending the math will somehow save us.

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