Mickey Down and Konrad Kay, creators of HBO's Industry, on addictions to success, status and money, and the substance abuse that fuels their hit show. In the episode we discuss:

-Why the themes of ambition, success, and money are at the heart of HBOs Industry – and how these themes manifest in various addictions among the characters

-Choosing what we worship, and what happens when we put our faith in external things to make us feel safe, secure, happy, and whole

-Why  recreational drug and alcohol use is so normalized – and how it morphs into more problematic use, especially in high pressure industries

-The individual drivers behind the culture of “success addiction” and “never enough” depicted in the show

-The role of childhood wounds in our self-destructive adult behaviors

-The transactional nature of the sex depicted in the show, and what this says about the characters’ lack of capacity for connection and vulnerability

-Dating apps being the crack cocaine of courtship – and the role of this in an addictive hookup culture

-The motivations for two of the characters getting sober in Season 2, and their different approaches to their sobriety

-The complexity of human nature, and how our “worst selves” often come out when we are feeling vulnerable and afraid

-The role of art in helping us develop self-compassion for our less palatable actions and behaviors

-Two key lines from the show that encapsulate our modern culture of excess 

Seasons One and Two of Industry are streaming now on HBO. You can follow along on Instagram @industryhbo for updates.

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Full-spectrum life coach Goddexx on transcending binaries, the roots of codependency, and embracing the fullness of who we are - in sobriety and beyond. In the episode we discuss:

-Their experiences with food addiction in childhood – related to food insecurity in the home

-Starting to abuse alcohol in tandem with coming into their bi-sexuality

-Toggling between different addictions to manage different situations and emotional challenges

-Discovering and enacting their own “harm reduction” approach to substance abuse

-The role of codependency in dysfunctional families – and why this is especially prevalent in migrant and other marginalized communities

-The prevalence of alcohol and other drugs in queer spaces as a way of numbing out internalized homophobia and transphobia

-Their work creating sober circles and spaces for healing in the QTBIPOC space

-The value of ritual, spell-work, and other forms of spiritual practice in sobriety

-Healing from intergenerational trauma – and the role of substance abuse in numbing the pain of the past

-What it means to live a “full spectrum” life – and why this concept can be frightening for people

-The value of boundaries when it comes to embracing fluidity 

Learn more about Goddexx and their work HERE and follow them on Instagram @iamgoddexx. 

Big thanks to Ghia for partnering on this episode. Get your Ghia at Drinkghia.com where you can get  $10 off your first online order with the code CURIOUS.

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