n this episode of So Listen: A Positing of Hideas, Kief and Sage make the radical case for being okay. Not thriving, not spiraling, not in the middle of a breakthrough or a breakdown—just here. They talk about the pressure to always be improving, why calm can feel uncomfortable in a world addicted to urgency, and how “fine” somehow became a suspicious answer. With a bowl break and plenty of gentle tangents, this episode sits with the idea that a shorter, quieter conversation can still be meaningful—and that being okay, even for just 30 minutes, is more than enough.

What if “you” aren’t a solid thing, but more like a playlist on shuffle? Some tracks hit every day, some pop up once and never again, and some you swear you deleted but they keep coming back. Kief and Sage spark a bowl and dig into identity, change, nostalgia, and why it’s okay if your vibe keeps evolving.

Kief is joined by his favorite person in the world, Elana Ericson, for a cozy, festive hang where the two unwrap memories, traditions, and a whole lot of holiday cheer. Guided by ChatGPT’s 25 Questions of Christmas, they bounce from heartwarming moments to brand-new traditions—and yes, they absolutely spill the sauce on the worst Christmas gift ever received.

So pour yourself a drink, spark a bowl, and settle in by the fire. It’s laughs, love, and holiday chaos with Kief & the Wife in this Christmas Special you won’t want to miss.