Content Warning: This episode discusses clinical depression, including themes of hopelessness and intrusive thoughts. Please listen with care.

In this quiet descent into the mind’s winter, Kief and Sage explore the heavy hush of clinical depression — the way it dims color, slows time, and convinces us that its story is the only story. Together they trace the shape of numb mornings, raincloud thoughts, and the strange fatigue that seeps into both body and spirit.

But within the drifts, they also search for warmth: the small lamps we light for ourselves, the hands that reach out even when words fail, the gentle reminder that the mind’s weather can shift, however slowly.

So listen… even when the days feel frostbitten and narrow, there is still a horizon waiting to be rediscovered.

In this feastful episode of So Listen: A Positing of Hideas, Kief and Sage dive beneath the cranberry-sauce glaze of America’s most mythologized meal. From the desperate first winter at Plymouth to the complicated alliance with the Wampanoag, we unpack what really happened in 1621—and how centuries of storytelling turned a three-day diplomatic potluck into a national holiday of gratitude. Along the way, we explore mythmaking, memory, and the ethics of celebration: what does it mean to give thanks on a day rooted in both unity and upheaval? Grab a plate, pass the truth, and join us for a deeper look at the origins of the first Thanksgiving.

In this playful yet quietly profound Hidea, Kief and Sage climb aboard the philosophical classic known as the Ship of Theseus and steer it straight into everyday life. What parts of “you” have been replaced over time—habits, memories, opinions, dreams—and what parts still feel original? Are we rebuilt plank by plank, or are we the ever-changing crew navigating a shifting vessel?

Together the hosts explore identity, reinvention, emotional upgrades, and the weird comfort of knowing you’re always both the old ship and the new one. Packed with laughter, bowl-break reflections, and a few “wait… who even am I?” detours, this episode invites listeners to consider whether becoming yourself is less about staying the same and more about learning to sail with the changes.