Eli Lake, host of the Breaking History podcast, loves America. But what does that mean? We discuss the long unfinished experiment of our country, and the fashionable anti-semitism that’s swept colleges/the youngs, or as Eli calls them, “barista socialists.” We talk about how elite colleges fell apart, when the left becomes violent, and why valuing ideology over human lives is never a good look.

Also discussed:

* Eli’s July 4 AI song is a BOP

* Sarah tells Nancy she “looks older,” this goes over great

* We knew we’d made it on YouTube when …

* Commenter warns: DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO!!

* Eli explains how he makes his bangin’ AI songs

* Third rails and Gen Xers

* Spy Magazine!!!

* Sarah doesn’t want to make Eli the point-person on antisemitism but …

* “You suck, Bob Vylan!”

* How shockingly close boredom is to death lust

* “It goes back to the Books of the Maccabees…”

* NYC mayoral politics: “Vote for the felon or for the fedayeen.”

* The bill has come due for radical academics

* Does Bernadine Dohrn deserve eternal contempt? Let’s discuss!

* “Who is Menachem Begin?”

* What young actor should play Ted Bundy?

* Sarah has a FOURTH OF JULY SURPRISE!

Plus, heroes of the Texas floods, a Monica Lewinsky theory from the Middle East, Sarah falls asleep listening to serial killer narratives, and much more!

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You can listen to Eli’s entire July 4 episode, but if you want to choke up and hear Eli’s bangin’ “If You Don’t Leave (We Gonna Fight),” start here (47:49)

Dan Savage: What better person to explain the mess that is the P Diddy trial? The “Savage Love” columnist/podcaster chats with Sarah and Nancy about the hip-hop mogul’s fetishes, OCD kinksters, the troubling statute of limitations on domestic abuse, and the dangerous elasticity of the term “sex trafficking.” This one is fascinating, fraught, and taught us a lot!

Also discussed:

* “It’s not RICO, it’s FREAK-O!”

* Dan stans Steve & Eydie

* Sarah is a little cinnamon, Nancy’s straight-up vanilla

* White parties started in gay culture?

* “A moment of silence for the staff of these hotels…”

* Clive Owens gets swapped with Clive Davis in a WILD WAY

* “There’s something Caligula about Combs …”

* It’s all about the glisten

* “Sex always wins.”

* Hotwifing??

* “I got cheated on, YAHTZEE!”

* “Pity sex is not rape”

* Men find their kinks at 15, women at 35

* Very tricky: Consent versus coercion

* “Good giving and game” might needs some corrections/clarifications

* The case for decriminalization of sex work

* The moral panic of “sex trafficking”

* The elasticity of the word “rape”

Plus, some (qualified) props for Monica Lewinsky, Sarah pouts because Nancy’s going on a date with another Sarah, New Orleans cops know all the lyrics to "Fairytale of New York,” and much more!

Nancy and Sarah debate a Modern Love column called, “Men, Where Have You Gone? Please Come Back.” Nancy is gagging. Sarah thinks it’s an imperfect swing in the right direction. Who will reign supreme? Eh, they both have a point. Also, the girls go deep on Karen Read, blackouts and causes celebre.

Also discussed:

* Nancy’s new nickname: Maidenform!

* New York, a socialist utopia?

* Be a YouTube subscriber, either because or despite our promise to only wear bras

* The Hepola trifecta: cops, excessive drinking, and blackouts

* Karen Read: Where to begin?

* No, really: Blackouts, blackouts, blackouts!!

* The defense lawyers are experts in… Kevin Spacey?!

* More people need jobs

* Are men “hiding” — if so, from what?

* Sarah gets rant-y about dating apps

* Nancy gets rant-y about female whining

* A male listener’s fraught text exchange with a woman

* “What is your role in this?”

* When heading to possible war, learn about previous wars

* William Langewiesche, revisited

* Osama bin Laden was a rich kid