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Sink and Swim

Sink and Swim

著者: Julie Granger
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Sink into your truth, rewrite the story you were born to live, swim in your Soul’s purpose.


Sink AND Swim is a podcast for high-achieving Luminaires ready to break free from the “sink or swim” societal narratives that dictate the “right” ways to live, work, parent, and be.


By paddling furiously to stay afloat and conform to the corset of "sink or swim" narratives, we are pulled away from our deepest and most authentic stories.


This show illuminates the stories of Luminaires - gifted, talented, multidimensional, soul-led, and neurospicy people who have gone on the deep alchemical journey from telling a story of sink OR swim to sink AND swim.


Listeners are invited to “sink” into your raw, unfiltered stories, uncovering the gifts embedded in the parts of you that you were conditioned to hide and conform.


There, you'll find the buoyancy to “swim” - fully embracing the freedom to be who you are, live out your soul's purpose, and attract people and opportunities that honor you in your full expansiveness.


© 2025 Sink and Swim
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  • The Power of Being a Niche Switcher — TaVona Denise on Reinvention, Voice, and Trusting the Pivot
    2025/10/22

    When you’ve built a life that looks successful on paper but still feels like a tight corset, reinvention can feel like both rebellion and relief.


    In this candid, laughter-filled, deeply honest conversation, Julie sits down with her longtime friend and fellow former PT, TaVona Boggs — Master Certified Coach, fractional CRO, and host of Breaking Protocol — to explore what happens when your identity, career, and even your literal voice all demand a new evolution.

    Together, they unpack:

    • The bravery of letting go when something no longer fits
    • The “niche switcher” wound and how it weaponizes multidimensionality
    • The body’s role in reinvention (including losing her voice for 10 weeks)
    • The grief and power of midlife, perimenopause, and changing identities
    • Why athletes often make the best entrepreneurs — and how pain tolerance, curiosity, and trust build resilience

    Equal parts practical and soulful, this episode is a permission slip for every high-achieving woman afraid that changing direction means starting over. As TaVona reminds us:

    “You can’t listen to the world. You have to listen to yourself.”


    03:15 – Letting Go and Being a ‘Niche Switcher’

    07:28 – Reinvention and Becoming a Fractional CRO

    12:10 – Listening to Yourself Over the World

    15:15 – The Rule-Breaker’s Defiance

    20:21 – The Right of Exile

    24:36 – Losing Her Voice: When the Body Speaks

    29:02 – Titrating Truth & Reclaiming the Voice

    33:12 – Joy, Aliveness & Counter-Culture

    36:23 – Enter the CRO Era

    43:05 – The Athlete Archetype

    46:23 – Identity, Loss & Integration

    56:24 – Closing Reflections

    Love what you hear? Learn more from Tavona at @tavonadenise on IG

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    59 分
  • Write the Damn Book (and Trust Yourself While You’re At It): Elizabeth Lyons on Storytelling and Letting It Be Enough
    2025/10/08

    When bestselling author and publishing mentor Elizabeth Lyons joins Julie for a conversation about trusting your voice, what unfolds is a deeply human, hilarious, and refreshingly honest look at the creative process—from loosening the “Conformity Corset” to navigating self-doubt, self-trust, and sourdough starters. Together they explore what it really takes to write (and live) in your own voice—without needing Oprah’s approval or a book deal to prove it.

    00:00 – “Breaking News & Beginnings”
    Julie shares breaking news — she’s finished her first book draft (!!) — and introduces Elizabeth Lyons, six-time author, mentor, and queen of saying the quiet parts of the creative process out loud.

    06:45 – “The Responsibility of Storytelling”
    A deep dive into the ethics of memoir: how to revisit truth without re-traumatizing yourself or your reader, and why every powerful story has to “land the plane.”

    12:48 – “What Every Aspiring Author Should Know”
    Elizabeth debunks the biggest myths in publishing — from “write a book in a weekend” to “everyone else has it figured out” — and shares her real-world wisdom on patience, process, and staying power.

    17:15 – “From Editor to Author: The Art of Self-Trust”
    How to trust your voice when doubt creeps in, why creative insecurity is actually a sign of integrity, and what happens when you stop trying to “do writing right.”

    27:40 – “The Brené Brown Fantasy: Publishing Realities & Industry Illusions”
    A truth-bomb conversation about traditional vs. indie publishing, why The Today Show doesn’t sell books, and how chasing visibility can strangle your creative joy.

    43:50 – “Loosening the Conformity Corset”
    Elizabeth gets raw about unlearning people-pleasing, learning to feel safe being herself, and surrounding herself with people who let her breathe — not bind.

    57:40 – “Future You, Present Peace”
    Her signature practice: journaling as “future you.” How it rewires self-trust, softens anxiety, and helps her move through creative life with more ease and humor.

    1:06:20 – “The Sourdough Era & The Permission to Begin Again”
    They close with laughter, carbs, and creative metaphor — from sourdough starters and Highland cows to the tattoo that reminds us all: you can always begin again.


    Love what you hear and want to learn more from Elizabeth?

    Check out her website www.elizabethlyons.com and follow her on instagram @elizabethlyonsauthor

    If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend


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    Follow Julie on Instagram @drjuliegranger for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!

    Get a deeper dive on Sink and Swim topics by joining the email club

    Find out more about Julie's coaching programs at her website




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    1 時間 27 分
  • Regulation Isn’t Always About Zen: Audrey Burke on Flexible Nervous Systems and the Fight for Fierce Boundaries
    2025/10/01

    Nervous System Regulation is having its moment, and we love that for it.

    But what if regulation isn’t about staying calm, but about reclaiming flexibility, boundaries, and embodied strength as a sensitive high-achiever?


    In this episode, Julie reconnects with longtime friend and Somatic Experiencing® practitioner Audrey Burke to explore what real nervous-system “regulation” is (hint: it’s flexibility, not monk-on-a-mountaintop calm).

    Audrey traces her path from dancer/yoga teacher to trauma-informed touch work, unpacking why co-regulation and consent-based touch can complete stress cycles when talking can’t. Together they name the difference between embodiment and “moving without being in your body,” the balance of internal/external locus of control, and how sensitive, intuitive women can build boundaries without abandoning compassion.

    Audrey shares practical boundary practices (the yarn exercise, push-hands “I can” reps), reframes healthy aggression as protecting life-force, and explains why titration beats catharsis.

    Julie weaves in the Conformity Corset, parts-work in coaching, and the both/and of mobilization and rest.

    They close with real-life community building beyond “pay-to-play,” and the advice they’d give their younger, hyper-capable selves: trust your body’s cues—and let that be enough.

    1. From Movement to Embodiment — 01:03
      Audrey’s journey from dancer and yoga teacher to Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner — and the difference between moving your body vs. being in your body.
    2. The Power of Touch — 03:23
      Why touch can be a missing piece in trauma healing and regulation, and how it differs from talk therapy or manual therapy.
    3. Redefining Regulation — 08:01
      Unpacking misconceptions about regulation (it’s not endless calm), and reclaiming fight/flight energy as part of a flexible, responsive nervous system.
    4. Context, Culture & the Nervous System — 11:32
      Exploring locus of control, trauma, and how regulation can’t be separated from culture, systems, and social context.
    5. Boundaries & Sensitivity — 43:13
      Somatic practices like the yarn circle and relationship mapping, the challenges of being a highly sensitive person, and reframing boundaries as acts of care.
    6. Reclaiming Healthy Aggression — 56:29
      How suppressed fight responses impact safety, and how titrated exercises help sensitive people feel both strong and relaxed at the same time.
    7. Belonging & Community — 1:08:19
      Turning 40, moving back to Durham, longing for non-monetized circles, and building community rooted in secure, ongoing relationships.

    Love what you hear from Audrey and want to learn more? Follow her on Instagram at @somaticswithaudrey

    If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend


    Looking for more of where this came from?

    Subscribe and watch full video episodes on Youtube

    Follow Julie on Instagram @drjuliegranger for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!

    Get a deeper dive on Sink and Swim topics by joining the email club

    Find out more about Julie's coaching programs at her website




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    1 時間 21 分
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