Lisa Massey calls herself a fourth-generation working mom, a third-generation healthcare professional, a second-generation entrepreneur, and a first-generation Lisa. In this episode, she and Julie talk about what it takes to become that last one.

Lisa is a physical therapist and the burnout and meaningful movement coach behind Evolving with Motion. She grew up as a three-sport athlete who learned that anger was fair game on the court and sadness made you weak. She carried that rulebook into healthcare, where service earns praise and burnout hides in plain sight. She describes burnout as a fourth-degree burn: at first you stop feeling anything, and when it starts to heal, you feel everything.

Together they explore the beliefs we inherit without ever choosing them, how to borrow courage from people already living the life you want, why a day off can feel harder than a packed schedule, and the difference between your capability and your capacity. Lisa also shares Fancy Drink Friday with her daughter, her emotional support water bottle, and the slow-hurry mantra that changed how she moves through her days.

If you’re a high-achieving woman learning that rest, ease, and peace are safe, this one is for you.

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Connect with Lisa @evolvingwithmotion on instagram or by going to her website

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00:00 Meet Lisa Massey

02:07 Fourth-generation working mom, first-generation Lisa

16:38 Anger was allowed, sadness wasn’t

19:39 Burnout is a fourth-degree burn

35:44 Take a day off just because (and why peace feels so uncomfortable)

44:30 Capacity vs. capability

1:05:13 Lightning round and Walktober

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What would a PT with 35 years behind her tell you about the career you're in right now?

Julie Laracy is 62, recently semi-retired, and busier than she's ever been. In this episode, she looks back on a physical therapy career that took her through pediatrics, wound care, school-based PT, nursing homes, outpatient private practice, her own in-home Parkinson's practice, and an acute care job she never expected to love. She talks honestly about the moments the profession started to lose its magic, from managed care to the day post-COVID visits shrank back to 45 minutes and she knew she couldn't do it anymore.

Julie shares what she'd tell the 30-something new mom and the 40-something woman juggling it all, why she took a per diem job as an emotional safety net while building her own business, and why your emotional needs matter as much as anything on your to-do list. She also opens up about the lifelong habit of making no waves, how she's learning to tell the truth instead, and how that shift rewrote the story of her relationship with her mother.

Whether you're a student, a brand new PT, or decades into your career, this conversation is a tap on the shoulder from a wiser version of you. You matter, regardless of the work you do.

00:00 Welcome and meet Julie Laracy
07:17 Why retirement made her busier than ever and why you need to remember what you like
20:13 From lottery-winning PT grad to a disenchanted clinician
32:23 Give it time and build a safety net before you leap
42:39 Telling the truth as the ultimate act of self-care
51:49 Rewriting the story of her mother
59:26 Lightning round

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If you went to physical therapy school between 2000 and 2020, you were trained under Vision 2020 — a genuinely good vision that also quietly taught you that you'd never be enough as you are.

In this Notes from a Fart Walk episode, recorded raw on an actual dog walk, Julie names the chip on the shoulder that almost every PT is carrying: the reason you keep collecting certifications, the reason you're looking at PA and NP programs at 41, and the reason so many women who pivot out of clinical work land somewhere new and think, huh, this isn't it either.

You didn't pack this baggage. It's still yours to unpack.

03:54 What a fart walk is, and why this one is unfinished

04:49 The clinician who did everything right and still felt behind

06:09 This isn't a failure of the profession, and it isn't yours either

07:22 Don't tell me you don't have a chip on your shoulder 1

5:07 What Vision 2020 taught 22-year-olds without meaning to

16:53 Who you are with no letters behind your name

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