**Content warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault and self-harm. Listener discretion is advised.**

What would happen if every white person in the world suddenly died, leaving Black people and other people of color to rebuild society and decide what comes next?

In this episode of *Shelf Sabotage*, Tasha and Arielle discuss Cebo Campbell’s *Sky Full of Elephants*, Left on Read’s September Book Club selection. They unpack the novel’s world-building, character development, racial allegory, and vision of Black life after whiteness. The conversation moves through Sydney’s shifting identity, Charlie’s complicated past, the loss of generational knowledge, the value placed on formal education, and the challenge of building a new society without reproducing the systems that shaped the old one.

They also consider Campbell’s reflections in his Electric Literature interview, including his desire to remove the white gaze, his idea of unity as a form of technology, and the tension between Black trauma, shared understanding, and collective joy.

Tune in as Arielle and Tasha dive into Zeal by Morgan Jerkins, a sweeping, multigenerational novel about love, loss, family secrets, and the ways one generation’s choices can shape those that follow. They discuss the dual timelines, Tirzah and Harrison’s enduring connection, Ardelia and Oliver’s complicated relationship, and whether the ending delivers on the story’s promise.

Note:  This episode includes discussion of domestic violence and sexual assault. Listener discretion is advised.

Note:  This episode includes discussion of domestic violence and sexual assault. Listener discretion is advised.

Author Nikesha Elise Williams joins us for part two to discuss the family secrets, complicated relationships, and generations of Black women at the center of the novel. We also talk about her writing and publishing journey, the choices behind the story, and what she hopes readers carry with them after the final page.

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