Dr. Gertrude Behan spent decades as a family medicine physician in Australia. She diagnosed patients with Alzheimer's. She saw firsthand how little the medications helped.

Then in 2016, she diagnosed her own mother.

Two years later, while battling breast cancer and searching for the BRCA gene, she discovered something else: she carries APOE4.

In this Phoenix Member Stories episode, Dr. Behan shares:

→ The moment she diagnosed her mother (and what happened next)

→ Why discovering APOE4 after her mother's diagnosis felt "believable"

→ How she juggles breast cancer prevention AND Alzheimer's prevention

→ Her surprisingly skeptical view on supplements (as a doctor)

→ Why she says "do it now" (the 6-8 years realization)

→ The "wild variant" reframe: APOE4 carriers as tough humans built for survival

→ Her current stack: activated B vitamins, vitamin D, NR (and why she's tempted by lithium)

→ Why she thinks APOE4 testing should be population-wide at age 30

→ Her message to anyone who just found out they carry the gene

📚 RESOURCES

→ Join the Phoenix Community: https://apoe4.link/Gertrude

→ Free APOE4 Guide: https://apoe4.link/GertrudeG

→ Weekly Newsletter: https://apoe4.link/GertrudeN

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Episode Trailer

01:20 Podcast Introduction – Gertrude Behan and Her Work

02:32 Diagnosing Her Mother with Alzheimer’s & Learning She Has the ApoE4 Gene

05:10 Researching Alzheimer’s & Treatment Options

07:20 Finding Positivity After Learning About ApoE4

09:25 Diet, Exercise & Alcohol and Brain Health

12:38 Fat, Glucose & Entering Ketosis

17:50 Phoenix Community Health Tracking App

20:18 Managing ApoE4 and Breast Cancer Together

22:08 How to Choose the Right Health Interventions

24:21 Cognitive Testing, Brain Training & Placebo Effect

31:37 How Dr. Behan Evaluates Supplements

39:10 Lithium Research & Final Thoughts