On this episode of the Embrace The Dark & The Light podcast, Kelly is joined by Sharon Podobnik Peterson, author of It's Not (All) Your Fault and owner of The Center for Conscious Leadership.

Sharon and Kelly discuss how they met, early on in Kelly's business transition away from subscription boxes, and why that change happened for both Kelly and Sharon's former business, The Self-Love Box.

Then they talk about the self-help and psychology industry, spilling the tea of what works and what doesn't.

More about Sharon:

Sharon Podobnik is a leadership coach, author, and speaker known for her work at the intersection of individual development and collective transformation.Her writing draws from her background in education and her personal experiences in the self-help industry, and explores the psychological and sociological factors that shape our lives and our futures. Podobnik synthesizes complex topics, blending research with storytelling to present ideas in compelling and accessible ways. Her writing has been praised for being as entertaining as it is enlightening. Her work has been featured in Forbes, The Washington Post, Good Morning America, and Oprah Magazine.She is the founder of The Center for Conscious Leadership, which seeks to co-create a more peaceful, just, and equitable world. When she’s not exploring the world with her husband Mark, she’s writing at a local coffee shop or reading with her spunky kitty, Annie, in Seattle, Washington.Find her on Instagram @sharonpodobnik, on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharonpodobnik, or at sharonpodobnik.com⁠ , find her book at ⁠itsnotallyourfault.com⁠ and work with her at: ⁠thecenterforconsciousleadership.com⁠