Chris Shelton has a Master's degree in Coercive Control and is the creator of the R.E.M. model of human behaviour, which sheds light on the motivations and drivers that can contribute to a person falling under the persuasion of coercive groups or ideologies. Chris also hosts the "Speaking of Cults" podcast and his upcoming book "What Now? A Practical Guide to Life After a Cult"

Chris, Glenn, and Jean talk Scientology, psychology, coercive control and lots of self-help history. This is Part 1 of 2.

Notes:

To Read:

"The Unique Characteristics of Post-cult PTSD and Suggested Therapeutic Approaches" by Dennis Patrick Healy in ICSA Today

"Barefaced Messiah: The True Story of L. Ron Hubbard" by Russel Miller

"The Program: Inside the Mind of Keith Raniere and the Rise and Fall of NXIVM" by Toni Natalie

To Watch:

Chris Shelton talking about "The Master" movie

"How to Become a Cult Leader" Netflix Docuseries

Going Clear on Netflix

SNL "Neurotology" video

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Read the memoir “This Sweet Life: how we lived after Kirby died” by Jean and her mom, Ginny Brown

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One of the things SEEK Safely has always said about self-help is that it is not a separate culture--it IS very much a part of mainstream culture. It is, then, unsurprising when it gets wrapped up in news stories of the day, such as the Epstein Files (if you hadn't heard, a prominent "Old Guard" self-help guy makes a disturbing appearance in the Files, as does a newer wellness guru).

Glenn and Jean discuss the long standing relationship between self-help and celebrity--how self-help figures have courted celebrities and political figures for clout and legitimacy, and how celebrities and other public figures have used self-help guru to show their... philosophical? spiritual? deep? side.

Notes:

To Watch:

Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich Netflix Docuseries

To Read:

Peter Atia, the Epstein Files, and the Lie Propping Up Big Wellness by Jessica Grose for The New York Times

Melania Had Herself a Movie Night! by Danielle Han for Yahoo News

How Celebrity Life Coach Tony Robbins Started Working with Bill Clinton by Richard Feloni for Business Insider

Tragedy in Sedona by Connie Joy

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Dr. Doyle and Jean discuss some of the points of intersection between the self-help industry and climate change and environmental issues in general. How do these things relate, you might ask. The self-help industry is in many ways a reflection of larger patterns in the world and society. Some of the problems that have contributed to climate change are also seen in the self-help industry.

But perhaps more interestingly, when we imagine a better future for both our environment and the self-help industry, we see parallels there, too. In this discussion, we hope to inspire some thought about what a better self-help future looks like. This conversation was largely inspired by the book “What if We Get it Right? Visions of Climate Futures” by Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson. A sobering but also very hopeful and inspiring read!

Show Notes:

To Read:

“What if We Get it Right? Visions of Climate Futures” by Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

“Think and Grow Rich” by Napoleon Hill

“Awaken the Giant Within" by Tony Robbins

"This Sweet Life: how we lived after Kirby died” by Ginny Brown and Jean Brown

“The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People” by Stephen R. Covey

“Don’t Call it a Cult” by Sara Berman

Sunk Cost Fallacy

Floorball

To Watch:

SEEK Week 2025 on YouTube

Escaping Twin Flames on Netflix

The Vow on Netflix

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Follow Dr. Glenn on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

Read the memoir “This Sweet Life: how we lived after Kirby died” by Jean and her mom, Ginny Brown

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