In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, Jax sits down with Angelique Grado, a board director, fractional CISO and CIO, former Air Force officer, and cybersecurity leader for critical infrastructure and global enterprises.

Angelique has spent over two decades leading technology and security strategy across Fortune-scale organizations, OT and ICS environments, and safety-critical systems where failure isn’t an option. She’s known for making cybersecurity a business accelerator, not a blocker, helping leaders navigate risk, growth, and complexity with clarity and confidence.

In this candid conversation, we explore:
- Why businesses increasingly accept cyber risk as long as revenue isn’t impacted
- The most misunderstood part of being a CISO and who misunderstands it most
- How “aviate, navigate, then communicate” applies to modern cyber leadership
- How AI is reshaping the CISO role faster than governance can keep up
- What boards and executives still get wrong about cybersecurity risk

This episode is a must-listen for CISOs, security leaders, board members, and anyone navigating the tension between business growth and security reality.

Learn more about Angelique:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelique-grado-51580516

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