In this episode of Local Environmental Heroes, we talk with Emeritus Professor Mark Howden AC about the long game of climate action — and what it feels like to spend almost four decades working on one of the biggest challenges facing the world.

Mark reflects on what's changed since he first became involved in the climate movement, what has stubbornly stayed the same, and the levers he believes can help shift us (and Canberra!) towards meaningful action.

We talk about the frustrations of working in the climate change space, the moments that provided encouragement, and the people and experiences that kept Mark engaged over the years. We also explore how change happens — and why, despite the setbacks, Mark still sees reasons for optimism.

Season Four Hosts: Jennifer Pinkerton and Julie Boulton
Sound editing: Will Tinapple, Formation Studios
Partners: SEE Change & Conservation Council of the ACT Region

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