My guest today is Sarah Beeny - property expert, broadcaster and entrepreneur, mum of four boys, and the host of the podcast Seriously?, where she talks to her sons about pretty much every topic under the sun. She's also just relaunched My Single Friend, the iconic dating site everyone was talking about in the noughties, now reborn as a video app, and she's been working with the NSPCC on online safety.

Sarah talks to me about why she took a hard line on screens years before it was fashionable - she once organised a school sit-in to keep iPads out of the classroom. She tells me why she thinks the under-16 social media ban is only the start, why we've all muddled up "quiet" and "happy" when it comes to our kids, and why talking to them about absolutely everything (yes, including sexting and foreplay) beats crossing your fingers and hoping it sorts itself out.

We also chat about:

• Why the social media ban is just the beginning - and the bigger thing she'd ban tomorrow
• The advice from her brother that made every awkward conversation with her kids easier
• What all four of her sons say to her now about growing up with phones (brace yourself)
• How watching her boys on Snapchat gave her the idea to bring back My Single Friend

You can follow Sarah on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sarah.beeny/?hl=en

Listen to her podcast Seriously? with Sarah Beeny https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/seriously-with-sarah-beeny/id1784734492

Find My Single Friend on the app store https://mysinglefriend.app

Find out more about the NSPCC's work on online safety https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/online-safety/

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