In this episode of the Salt & Fire Podcast, Evangelist Robert Martin sits down with Evangelist Robbie Grubbs to talk about something every believer needs: access. Not just how to access God—but how to let God access us.

Together, they address the exhaustion of surface-level, performance-driven Christianity and invite listeners back to the fear of the Lord, the secret place, and a genuine walk with Jesus. This is an honest conversation about spiritual hunger, intimacy, and why activity must never replace communion.

You’ll hear a simple but powerful pathway for going deeper: desperation, consecration, and revelation, along with practical ways to quiet distractions, cultivate hunger, and pursue God personally. If you’ve felt numb, busy, or stuck in routine, this episode is a loving call back to prayer, the Word, and the transforming presence of the Holy Spirit.

In Episode 2 of the Salt & Fire Podcast, Evangelist Robert Martin confronts the pressure of performance-based Christianity and the fear of trying to please God through effort alone. Drawing from Romans 7–8, the life of Jesus, and the finished work of the cross, this episode reveals how Christ’s perfect obedience frees believers from shame, condemnation, and religious striving.

Discover how grace ends fear-driven faith, why God’s approval is received—not earned—and how seeing the smile of God becomes the power to live in holiness.