• 147: Melissa Palmer – Obsessed with Sales
    2025/07/21
    Guest: Melissa Palmer Guest Bio: Melissa started her sales career by accident, but quickly learned. She enjoyed connecting a customer with a solution and helping solve their problems and protect their interests. She is very good at building lasting relationships because her intention is always honest. She soon learned the best way to truly protect the customer is to also protect the company she represents; there has to be a win-win scenario, or no one wins in the long run. In management, she can do the greatest good as she works with the sales team to do just that, focusing on creating winning solutions for all. Melissa is also very energetic about what she does, and that energy is contagious. Key Points: Career Journey into Sales & Manufacturing Melissa began working in manufacturing while studying elementary education, after passing a tape measure test at a temp agency. She started on the shop floor, moved into office roles, then customer service, sales, management, and technical roles. Melissa wanted a fresh start in sales after over 20 years at her first company, where she was often the "fixer." Within six months, she was promoted to Sales Manager due to her proactive ideas and contributions. Sales Team Development at LS Industries Melissa feels her biggest win is unified messaging—the entire sales team aligned in language, story, and mission. She took advantage of team turnover to rebuild with aligned, enthusiastic hires. There is strong support from leadership (including the owner) who models the company’s values. Focus on educating the team on purpose, customer-centric values, and collective goals. Sales Philosophy & Leadership Set clear expectations for customers, build trust, and prevent miscommunication. As a sales manager, Melissa retrains and coaches. Leads by example (e.g., joining calls to demonstrate customer communication). Shows the real-time impact of proper communication. Success in sales depends on trust, not just rapport. Repeat business comes from being dependable. Sales Challenges Pain points: Reps either say “no” too fast or say “yes” too easily without assessing feasibility and avoiding hard conversations with customers (especially around timelines or product complexity). Melissa’s coaching approach is to educate on the long-term impact of honesty and setting realistic expectations, and emphasize quality and ROI over speed when needed. Team Composition & Structure Melissa’s current team consists of 12 people, including international, e-commerce, parts, and general sales. She describes her team as mostly “hunters” (actively seeking new business). The “Farmers” exist mainly on the parts team (inbound calls, upselling). Talent Development Melissa has successfully transitioned shop floor workers into top-performing sales reps based on drive and hustle. People who are eager to grow and win tend to excel, even with little formal experience. CRM Adoption & Usage The biggest challenge is getting reps to consistently use the CRM. Melissa was initially skeptical, but now sees it as essential for success, organization, and maintaining relationships. Her approach is to minimize complexity—track only essential data, use automation (autosave communications, recurring tasks), regular reminders, training, and reinforcement, and “Trust but verify” through reporting and light oversight—not micromanagement. Key Sales Leadership Insights Missing documentation in CRM can cost deals. Frequent retraining, reinforcement, and modeling behavior help build habits. Being transparent and reliable is more effective than always being agreeable. Guest Links: (316) 670-6283 mpalmer@lsindustries.com www.lsindustries.com www.winonavannorman.com Connect on LinkedIn Connect on Facebook About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let’s talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.
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  • 146: Ben Filkouski – Finding Your ‘Why’
    2025/07/14
    Guest: Ben Filkouski Guest Bio: ​Ben graduated from the University of Wisconsin – Madison in 2018. Upon graduating, Ben worked for Goldleaf Development, a Multi-Family Developer in Dane County, where he obtained his Real Estate License. In September of 2019, Ben joined Madison Commercial Real Estate. Since joining Madison Commercial Real Estate, Ben has become a Partner with the firm, obtained his Real Estate Brokers License, and earned his CCIM (Certified Commercial Investment Member) designation. Ben currently serves on the board of Commercial Brokers Group Inc. (CBG) a CRE Organization based out of Madison, WI. CBG recognizes top deals completed annually, and Ben has won Land Deal of the Year in 2021 & Overall Deal of the Year in 2021, Industrial Deal of the Year in 2022, and Land Deal of the Year in 2024. Ben is also an active member in the Commercial Association of Realtors Wisconsin (CARW) where he was formerly on the NextGen Committee and was runner-up for Industrial Deal of the Year for the State of Wisconsin in 2022. Ben is also an active member with Smart Growth Greater Madison, a real estate development lobbying & networking organization. Key Points: Entry into Real Estate: Ben initially resisted going into real estate despite a family background in it. He became interested after experiencing different aspects like construction, deal-making, and sales. Ben fell in love with real estate during a brokerage role, especially the dynamic nature of the work and helping clients grow. Unexpected Career Path: Ben originally considered a career in the arts due to a love of creative thinking and writing. He found that creativity and communication are actually essential to being successful in real estate sales. Natural Networker: Networking comes naturally due to a talkative personality and curiosity about people. Ben enjoys building relationships, whether or not they lead to direct business. He learned the value of strategic networking, focusing on a few meaningful conversations rather than quantity. He uses networking as a way to stay top of mind for real estate opportunities. Team Growth & Hiring Philosophy: Ben recently grew the team by hiring two new associates. Hiring isn’t based solely on experience, personality, drive, and communication skills are more important. Ben looks for self-motivation, competitiveness, and professionalism. He emphasizes the long timeline before new brokers become profitable, so cultural and personal fit is essential. Screening New Hires: Ben created a detailed training portal designed to take 50–60 hours. He doesn’t tell new hires how long it should take—completion speed reveals attention to detail and commitment. He uses early performance during training as a key indicator of long-term potential. Managing Associates: One challenge is frequent interruptions that break focus. Ben implements short, scheduled check-ins (10–15 minutes) instead of ad hoc questions. This structure improves efficiency for both managers and associates. Ben believes some level of independence should be expected after the initial learning phase. Culture and Success Metrics: Culture encourages brokers to “live the lifestyle”—be self-driven, schedule smartly, and network. The firm has seen improved success rates and retention since implementing more structured onboarding and evaluation systems. Guest Links: Connect on LinkedIn Connect on Instagram https://madisoncommercialre About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let’s talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.
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  • 145: Matthew Freed – Simplifying the Complicated
    2025/07/07
    Guest: Matthew Freed Guest Bio: ​I’ve spent the last 20 years in sales and sales leadership, and I still find it incredibly rewarding. Most of that time has been in manufacturing and distribution, where I’ve had the opportunity to lead high-performing teams and work closely with customers. I currently lead a team across the Midwest and am passionate about building lasting culture, driving results, and simplifying the complicated. A big part of my leadership style is helping sellers achieve their goals while supporting them in becoming the best versions of themselves. I believe consistent habits lead to consistent outcomes, and I aim to lead with energy, clarity, and accountability. I enjoy helping people grow in their careers while building meaningful, long-term relationships with customers and colleagues. Outside of work, I still love to compete—whether it’s on the basketball court or just a backyard game with friends. Most importantly, I enjoy time with my wife and our two daughters. Key Points: Career Journey & Sales Background His dad was in sales and eventually owned a business, which influenced him early. Matthew started with cold calling and door-to-door efforts, learning what real sales was versus the perception. Naturally gravitated toward leadership roles on teams; wanted to shift from individual sales to team success. Moved cities and took a risk to lead a sales team at a manufacturing company, eventually growing in responsibility and geography. He was introduced to Millcraft by a supplier contact and joined over 8 years ago; currently leads sales efforts after transitioning from operational responsibilities. Sales Philosophy & Simplifying Complexity Believes the sales team is his "customers" and supports them by removing obstacles and improving processes. Matthew uses what he calls a "Simplify the Complicated" Approach: · Sales fundamentals (know, like, trust) are still the core, despite evolving technology. · Use data and analytics to validate feelings and drive decisions. · Focus on what matters: simplify systems/processes to let sellers focus on selling. Challenges in Sales Leadership Reps often react emotionally, inventing stories about prospects. Ask clarifying questions, do a fact-finding mission, and use both data and instinct (e.g., the "sleep on it" approach). Helps reps stay grounded by focusing on facts and controllables rather than assumptions. CRM/ERP Adoption Success Successfully implemented a new ERP system that includes a CRM. Tailored the system to serve salespeople and their customers. Positioned CRM is used as a way to better serve customers and make smarter decisions. Gained buy-in by connecting usage to outcomes (e.g., customer satisfaction). Has most of his team (12 people) consistently using the CRM. Team Composition & Hiring A mix of new and long-tenured reps (some with 30–40+ years of experience). Has a team size of 12 sellers. What He Looks for in Hires is resourcefulness, values competitiveness, entrepreneurial spirit, and inquisitiveness. Matthew’s screening methods are assignments before interviews, looking for how much effort candidates put into research, a sports background is a strong signal (discipline, competition), and relying heavily on referrals. Team Wins & New Business Growth - 150+ New Accounts Opened Focused efforts in specific industry segments (e.g., beverage, signage, apparel, nonprofits). Leverages repeatable success models: if one nonprofit buys certain items, others likely will too. Emphasizes selling similar things to similar customers vs. reinventing every sale. Segment-focused selling allows for scalable, repeatable growth strategies. Leadership Style & Values Clearly outlines what reps should expect from him and vice versa. Believes in accountability, honesty, and mutual respect. Sees his role as equipping and clearing the path for his team’s success. Encourages feedback and builds relationships rooted in trust. Guest Links: Connect on LinkedIn About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let’s talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://...
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  • 144: Nick Sowards – Never Give Up
    2025/06/30
    Guest: Nick Sowards Guest Bio: ​Started cleaning machines in California at 18 years old at my grandfather’s company. Graduated into selling machines at 19, then left his company at 20 to sell new machines. Left California in 2004 and joined Absolute Machine Tools, selling their imported brands. In 2015, became GM for Absolute, running their Chicago facility. 2017 needed a change in my life and left Absolute with joining Ellison Technologies in December 17, and the ride has been great thus far! I'm a sales manager for NE Ohio and a territory manager for Lake and 1/2 of Cuyahoga County. I was honored to have been the #1 salesman in Ellison for GP and units for 2023, with also getting salesperson of the year awards. Been in the top 5-10 ever since I started with Ellison in 2017. We have a great team in Ohio, so that helps! Key Points: Early Influences and Entry into Sales · Grandfather's machine shop played a formative role. He started by cleaning machines as a kid to earn money for things his family couldn't afford. · Originally planned to become an FBI agent, but his mother recognized his strong communication skills and encouraged sales. · A pivotal moment came when he accidentally made a $10,000 sale, earned $200 commission, and realized sales were more rewarding than cleaning machines. Motivation and Personal Drive · Grew up poor, became a young father, and was driven by the desire to support his family, including allowing his wife to stay home. · Has seven daughters, now expecting three grandchildren, further reinforcing his motivation to succeed financially and professionally. Leadership and Management Style · Leads a tight-knit sales team of three, focusing on trust, open communication, and family-like support. Believes success is shared: if his team does well, he does well. · Encourages open access; his team can call him anytime, for work or personal matters. Hiring Philosophy · Looks for motivation (expensive hobbies, family responsibilities) and coachability. · Avoids hiring “negative” people; prioritizes positive, adaptable personalities. · Uses personality assessments and informal settings (like lunch) to gauge candidates more authentically. Watches for signs of intrinsic drive, not just skill. Building Trust with New Hires · Leads by example: gave a full commission on a deal made the day before a new rep joined, demonstrating generosity and fairness. · Builds trust through action, not just words, follows through, supports his team, and solves problems directly or connects them with the right resources. Sales Philosophy · Be honest and transparent: admit when you don’t know something, but always get the correct answers. · Never be a “yes man”, integrity builds long-term relationships. · Success is based on persistence, teamwork, and customer focus. Guest Links: Cell: 216-347-9566 Email: nsowards@ellisontechnologies.com Connect on LinkedIn About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let’s talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.
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  • 143: Erick Haas – Communicating with Transparency
    2025/06/23
    Guest: Erick Haas Guest Bio: ​Erick Haas is an experienced Ag Sales Manager with LandPro Equipment overseeing 17 Ag Salesmen while bringing 15 years of expertise in the John Deere dealer network. Erick’s AOR is primarily Western NY, Pennsylvania, and a portion of Ohio. His background includes Precision Agriculture, Training, Recruitment, and being a John Deere Certified Trainer. Erick is deeply committed to his Central NY community, serving as President of Cornell Cooperative Extension of Madison County, several program advisory boards, a 4-H Leader, and President of the Chittenango Fire Department. He resides on a 65-acre hobby farm in Central NY with his wife and two young girls. Key Points: Career Path to Ag Sales Manager at LandPro Equipment · Early Career: Started with a degree aimed at environmental conservation; initially worked with Soil and Water Conservation, supporting farms. · Transition to Ag: Joined a John Deere dealership (Chazy Equipment Company) in 2011 as a precision ag specialist. · Career Growth: Became training manager, certified John Deere instructor, and eventually territory manager for 20 dealerships in the Northeast. · LandPro Role: Though lacking formal sales management experience, his reputation, technical expertise, and broad network helped him land the role. Management Philosophy & Style · People-Focused: Enjoys the human connection, coaching his team, and tailoring support to individuals' strengths and weaknesses. · Adaptability: Finds fulfillment in varied tasks—from farm visits to desk work. · Development-Oriented: Gets satisfaction from helping salespeople grow confident and independent. Building Trust and Influence · Earning Respect: Gained trust from seasoned, high-performing salespeople by being transparent, consistent, and reliable. · Trusted Resource: Focuses on becoming a go-to advisor for his team, even when the question is outside his expertise. Leading Through Change · Inherited Challenges: Took over a role that had seen high turnover; faced skepticism and had to prove his commitment. · Transparency: Earned buy-in by demystifying business goals (e.g., market share importance) and opening up about internal processes. · Best Practice Sharing: Emphasizes education and consistent communication. CRM and Accountability · CRM Usage: Encourages CRM use not for micromanagement but for customer service, protection, and visibility. · Variable Expectations: Applies different levels of accountability based on experience and performance. · Case Example: A customer hadn’t been called on in 10 years; proper CRM use would have prevented the oversight. Cross-Department Communication · Breaking Down Silos: Promotes overcommunication across sales, service, and parts to ensure customer needs are met. · Leadership Coordination: Has regular check-ins with store managers to stay in the loop and encourage collaboration. Accountability Culture · Problem Solving: Encourages direct, timely discussions to resolve interdepartmental issues quickly. · Ownership: Stresses accountability across all roles, not just sales. Foundational Wins vs. Sales Wins · Pyramid Model: Believes in building foundational skills—like customer handling, tech comfort, policy knowledge—as a prerequisite for sales success. · Progression: Describes coaching progression from handholding to independence, likening it to riding a bike. Documentation & Process · Written Best Practices: Emphasizes the importance of written procedures to plug process gaps and support memory retention. · Training Tools: Uses documentation to streamline onboarding and reinforce standards. Guest Links: Connect on LinkedIn About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let’s talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.
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  • 142: Mike Kochenderfer – Leading with Authenticity
    2025/06/16
    Guest: Mike Kochenderfer Guest Bio: Michael Kochenderfer is a seasoned sales leader with a proven track record of driving growth and building high-performing teams. As Regional Sales Manager at RECO Equipment, Inc., he is recognized not only for increasing revenue but also for his mentorship and coaching skills. Michael is dedicated to fostering professional development within his team, creating a positive and supportive work environment. His leadership has been instrumental in managing complex projects, including overseeing the most intricate commercial installations in DIRECTV's history. Michael's commitment to excellence and his ability to build strong relationships make him a respected figure in sales management. Key Points: Backstory & Entry into Sales Michael didn’t originally see himself in sales due to negative stereotypes. Started as a part-time employee and unknowingly excelled in sales by simply helping people. Realized that sales is just helping people achieve what they want. Created a personal sales model based on fishing: F + L + P = Success o Fish = Prospect o Location = Where you find them o Presentation = How you engage them Career Growth Held various sales and sales management roles, growing from retail to B2B and outside sales. Learned cold calling, refined targeting, became top salesperson, and began training others. Gained confidence through servant leadership and authenticity from mentor Evan. Leadership Style Key philosophy: He supports, removes roadblocks, and leads by doing. Authenticity: This means being the best version of yourself and not pretending to be someone you’re not. Team integration: Prioritizes relationships and alignment rather than authority. Hiring Philosophy Core values come first. Look for loyalty, professionalism, and hard work. Uses tools like LinkedIn, Indeed, and ZipRecruiter. Prefers candidates with equipment-adjacent experience and a stable job history. Wants long-term team members who see the company as a place to retire from. Managing Existing Teams Challenges of managing people already in place when you’re new. Focuses on building trust through authenticity and helpfulness rather than authority. Believes in empowering the team, not controlling it. Performance Management Performance Improvement Plans (PIPs): Custom, supportive, and hands-on. Rooted in detailed effort and results analysis. Requires a heavy coaching commitment from him. Goal: fix performance issues collaboratively before considering termination. Terminations: The most difficult part of leadership, handled with empathy and responsibility. Training & Onboarding Critical to success: structured, immersive, and cross-functional. Includes vendor trainings, internal team shadowing, and real-time coaching. Believes great onboarding sets the foundation for long-term success. Guest Links: Connect on LinkedIn About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let’s talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.
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  • 141: Tom Wardach – Building a Sales Team from Zero
    2025/06/09
    Guest: Tom Wardach Guest Bio: ​After serving for a few years as an officer in the US Army, I ventured into the business world, and that wasn't even my original plan! After almost 35 years in my current industry, I never thought that I would be in it for that long. And yet after more than 3 decades, here I still am. I have had the capacity to work for some great companies and wonderful teams in sales, personnel, customer service, product, and information management. Key Points: Background and Career Path · Tom attended a military college in South Carolina and served in the Army. Leadership and discipline learned there laid the groundwork for his career. · Transitioned to sales through a connection his wife had with Georgia-Pacific, where he began as an inside salesperson. · Emphasizes the importance of connections, not burning bridges, and seizing opportunities. Military Lessons Applied to Sales · Experience in leading teams in the military helped him lead sales teams. · Military discipline translates well to self-motivation and accountability in sales roles, especially in remote work settings. Egger Wood Products Role · Initially hired for a key account manager role, was later promoted to lead the U.S. sales team as part of a succession plan. · Tasked with building the U.S. sales team essentially from scratch. Building a Sales Team · Before hiring, he and the company identified what traits they were looking for in candidates. · Uses a collaborative approach to hiring, incorporating feedback from other team members and HR. · Emphasizes collaboration, input from colleagues, and a structured onboarding process. Hiring Philosophy · Candidates must have a proven sales background. · Prefers candidates with a short learning curve on the product side due to immediate business needs. · Ideal hires have both sales and some industry familiarity (e.g., OEM experience). · Doesn’t hesitate to make quick decisions when it’s clear a hire isn’t a good fit, unlike companies that wait too long. · Acknowledges the emotional difficulty of letting people go, even when necessary. Sales Team Expectations · Key account managers are expected to both acquire new business and grow existing accounts. · Sales at Egger involve long sales cycles and complex conversions (e.g., product switching or manufacturing changes). · A key priority is expanding Egger’s brand presence in the U.S. since its local manufacturing started in 2020. Guest Links: Connect on LinkedIn About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let’s talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.
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  • 140: Karen Barbour – People Are People
    2025/06/02
    Guest: Karen Barbour Guest Bio: ​With nearly 40 years of surety experience, Karen Barbour founded The Barbour Group in 2002, a nationally licensed surety agency focused on construction bonding and advocacy, with offices in Maryland and Tennessee. TBG is a certified DBE, WBE, WOSB, and WBENC firm. Her advocacy sparked in the late 1990s when achieving a Federal Acquisition Regulation change permitting annual bond forms to support five-year contracts instead of one bond for five years, giving small and minority 8(a) firms the capability of bonding such projects. Karen serves on the U.S. SBA’s National SBDC Advisory Board, MAA (BWI) Small & Minority Business Advisory Council, as Vice Chair for AMAC’s Government Affairs Committee, and on boards such as Women Construction Owners & Executives and Girl Scouts of Central MD for over 10 years. Karen co-founded the Alliance for Hispanic Commercial Contractors, Party For A Cure, and the National Small Business Party. She continues to manage an exclusive surety bond program with Hensel Phelps Construction Co. that to date has bonded over $170,000,000 in subcontracts with no losses. Key Points: Early Career and Challenges as a Woman Started in the insurance and surety industry in the 1980s as one of the few women in a male-dominated field. She faced pay inequality and a lack of mentorship or grooming for leadership. Despite working 80-hour weeks, she wasn’t offered ownership opportunities. Founding the Barbour Group After a successful career as a bond producer, she left to start her firm in 2002. Her motivation included economic independence, work-life flexibility, and family care (as a single mom and caretaker for her father with Alzheimer’s). Passion for Cold Calling Loved the challenge and directness of cold calling. Used it to differentiate herself and prove her value in a field where women were not readily accepted. Emphasized understanding of construction and surety underwriting, which made her uniquely effective. Advocacy for Minority and Women-Owned Businesses A pivotal moment came in her 20s when she unintentionally walked into a minority contractors’ meeting. Shocked by the industry's bias (her company directed underwriters to flat-out decline minority applicants), she left and began actively advocating for diversity. Worked to bond minority and women-owned firms, growing underwriting from $250,000 to $2.5 million in a year without losses. Personal Motivation and Values Grew up in a polluted, working-class neighborhood in Maryland. Experienced loss and hardship early in life (lost her mother at 11). Driven by empathy, fairness, and a strong sense of justice. Discovered later in life that her biological father was a neurosurgeon, which helped her understand her innate compassion. Diversity, Inclusion, and Economic Equity Emphasizes the importance of seeing and celebrating cultural differences, not ignoring them. Believes diversity brings better business outcomes and strengthens communities. Argues that systemic exclusion limits contributions from capable individuals and that access to capital and education are key. Community and Social Impact Initiatives Founded the Alliance for Hispanic Commercial Contractors to support minority businesses with financial assistance, consulting, and sponsorships. Created Party for a Cure, a nonprofit supporting children with neurological diseases. Developed a political platform, the National Small Business Party, to give small businesses a stronger voice in policy. Core Philosophy Step through fear—growth and purpose lie on the other side. Use business as a vehicle for empowerment, particularly for underrepresented groups. Diversity isn’t just a value—it’s a strategic imperative for societal and business success. Guest Links: www.thebarbourgroup.com www.ahcc-midatlantic.org www.nsbpusa.org – National Small Business Party Home | Minority Business RoundTable | Washington, D.C. - Nonprofit for AHCC www.pfac-md.org Party For A Cure – Nonprofit that helps kids with Neuromuscular Diseases About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let’s talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, ...
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