In this episode of the GoHealth Podcast, Gillian Straine, CEO of GoHealth, steps into a different kind of conversation. Rather than interviewing a guest, Gillian joins organisational consultant Wendy Ball for an honest, searching dialogue about what it means to lead well in a time of deep instability, in the church, in our organisations, and in the world.

Wendy Ball works with impact networks and charities to strengthen their identity, shared vision and partnerships. Her work has been described as being ‘a life coach for organisations’ — accompanying leaders and teams as they give attention to relational culture and strategic intent.

Together, Gillian and Wendy explore:

• The strain and burnout that leaders across sectors are experiencing.
• What ‘sane leadership’ looks like.
• Personal wellbeing rooted in theology.
• The value of good practical systems.
• Gillian’s personal leadership journey.
• The qualities of grounded, resilient leadership — including the courage to ask for help
• Wendy’s vision of ‘lovefare’: organising effectively for connection, justice and the common good.

The full transcript of the podcast can be found here.

People & Resources Mentioned

• Margaret Wheatley — Who Do We Choose to Be? Facing Reality, Claiming Leadership, Restoring Sanity
• Simon Sinek — Start With Why (concept of beginning with purpose)
• Professor Jim McManus — Head of Public Health and Wellbeing for Wales, former President of GoHealth
• Tucker Miller — participatory leadership practitioner; quoted on asking for help as a quality of trustworthy leadership
• Martin Luther King — ‘Those who love peace must learn to organise as effectively as those who love war’
• Wendy Ball’s work — find her via linktr.ee and sign up to her mailing list to learn more about her lovefare work.

About GoHealth

GoHealth is an organization with a vision to enable churches and individual Christians to be a healing presence in the world. The GoHealth Community offers online courses, monthly gatherings, and a supportive space to explore how to connect faith and health.

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