S7E810: Where Do You Stand with ICE?
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S7E810: Where Do You Stand with ICE?
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When protests turn into property damage, road blockades, and attacks on officers, the usual tools of crowd control start looking thin.
This week Michael and MJ put a blunt question to the audience: if ICE agents are being hit, surrounded, or overwhelmed by agitators, would you be okay with them using water cannons — not as punishment, but as self-defense and a way to restore order?
They walk through what water cannons actually do, how other countries use them, and why the U.S. has mostly kept them off the table. Then they get into the harder part: where the line sits between a lawful protest and a mob, who decides when force is justified, and whether “de-escalation” still means anything once bottles, lasers, and vehicles are in play.
No slogans. No scripted outrage. Just the question, the tradeoffs, and your take.
Drop it in the comments or send a voice note — would you back water cannons for ICE in those situations, or is that a line you won’t cross?