S5E12: Where Wildland Meets Neighborhood: Lessons From the Spokane Area Fires
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When the Old Trails Fire moved from the wildland into neighborhoods near Spokane, Washington, it left behind a complex pattern of destruction—and important clues about how wildfire spreads through communities. In this episode of Disaster Discussions, host Rachael Penton Gauthier is joined by IBHS Senior Wildfire Fellow Mark Novak to discuss IBHS’s post-fire investigation of the Old Trails Fire. Drawing on his experience as both a firefighter in the West and a wildland fire investigator, Mark explains what the team observed on the ground, how fire behavior and suppression shaped the outcome, and what physical evidence can reveal about the fire’s path. The conversation explores structure spacing, combustible fencing, vegetation, vehicles and other connective fuels, as well as the role firefighters played in saving homes. Together, Rachael and Mark look at what the homes that burned—and the ones that survived—can teach us about reducing wildfire risk and giving communities and first responders a better chance when the next fire comes.