This episode is all about the next generation. We're joined by Olivia and Sophia from Frocester Group, two 19-year-olds we met at the Workplace Event who are just starting out in FM.

Sophia joined Frocester Group straight from school at 16, when the business had just four employees. She completed a business administration apprenticeship and has since moved from the service desk into operations, and now into fire. Olivia studied psychology, criminology and law at college before joining Frocester in September as a marketing apprentice. She now runs the company's social media and events.

In this episode we talk about:

- Going straight into work at 16 vs going to college first
- Why picking up the phone (and meetings) can feel so daunting for a new generation
- Being young and female in a male-dominated fire and security world
- The barriers young people face: qualifications, experience and the cost of university
- Why apprenticeships and hiring based on a conversation, not a CV, work
- Leadership, culture and growing with a family business

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00:00 Welcome back & introducing Olivia and Sophia
03:07 Olivia's route: from college to marketing
04:17 Sophia's route: straight from school at 16
04:48 Work vs further education
07:12 Competing as a smaller business: it's all about relationships
08:12 Sophia's apprenticeship and early days on the service desk
09:49 Why picking up the phone is so daunting
13:10 Meetings, nerves and the love of email
14:53 Industry events & ending up at the wrong one
18:50 Career progression: from service to operations to fire
20:25 Young women in a male-dominated industry (and golf days)
21:45 Olivia's marketing apprenticeship
26:03 Biggest challenge: organising events
28:58 The challenge of being heard
30:41 Is Gen Z really work-shy?
31:00 Sponsor: Bidwells
32:12 Responding to the critics: "Cinderella's shoe didn't fit everyone"
34:28 How hard it is to land a first job
36:12 Youth unemployment and the qualifications barrier
37:18 "I don't want to see your CV"
39:20 Covid, interviews and alternative routes
40:54 Is university worth the debt?
45:30 Why universities should offer degrees in FM, fire and security
47:08 Difficult clients and subcontractors
48:41 Building a thicker skin
51:01 Rapid growth at Frost Security
52:05 Family culture, ski trips and team spirit
55:06 Why good leadership matters
57:02 Wrap-up

This episode is sponsored by Bidwells.
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If you want property advice built for new technology, climate change and the people who use your buildings, visit Bidwells: https://www.bidwells.co.uk



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