The Wallabies wear another heavy loss to New Zealand, and David Pembroke, Ewen McKenzie and Steve Hansen don’t sugar-coat it: a brutal first half, too much aimless kicking, and not enough composure when Australia finally had phases to build pressure. Hansen loves what he’s seeing from the All Blacks attack, offloads, line running, and forwards playing into space, while McKenzie highlights key moments like Harry Wilson’s grubber into touch as a snapshot of game management and leadership under pressure. The TMO becomes its own storyline too, especially the Roigard incident, with all three questioning what “foul play” even means now. They also get into the deeper Wallabies problems, the missing world class 10 and a ball-playing 12, and why New Zealand fans want Australia strong again. Then it’s WXV: Black Ferns smash France 81-12, Canada pinch it late against England 24-21 to end England’s unbeaten run, and the USA keep building momentum.

Also in this episode:

● All Blacks offloads and handling under extreme pressure

● Wallabies leadership, huddles, and “stay steady Eddie” moments

● Meredith at 10: rocks and diamonds, but a crack

● TMO involvement and the Roigard-Meredith controversy

● WXV: Canada upset England in front of 18,600

● Future comps: Nations Championship talks and Super Rugby formats

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David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie rip into the biggest talking point from All Blacks v Wallabies: Eddie Jones’ effort stats, and what they really say about mindset, speed off the ground, and being ready for the next job. With the Wallabies’ No.10 curse biting again and another reshuffle coming, the trio run the ruler over the 23, the risks around combinations, and what has to change to keep New Zealand honest. The All Blacks changes get the same treatment, including the excitement factor of Timoci Tavatavanawai. There’s also a straight-shooting discussion on Mark Nawaqanitawase’s rugby return, the manager-led noise about Fiji and Italy eligibility, and what Rugby Australia and Les Kiss should do next. Plus a big women’s rugby weekend and a fast, practical look at the Investec Champions Cup and EPCR Challenge Cup match list.

Also in this episode:

● Eddie Jones’ effort statistics and what they measure

● Wallabies squad changes: Meredith in, Donaldson out

● All Blacks depth and injury cover, Hansen’s take

● Mark Nawaqanitawase eligibility debate: Australia, Fiji, Italy

● Black Ferns v France series and Wallaroos v Scotland

● Champions Cup and Challenge Cup fixtures across Europe

PLUS: What “possession” and adaptable tactics really mean against the All Blacks.

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David Pembroke, Ewen McKenzie and Steve Hansen break down the All Blacks’ 50-19 win over Australia at Eden Park, and why the match swung hard after Australia’s strong opening. They dig into what New Zealand fixed fast: high ball catches, maul defence, breakdown support, and a second-half lineout lift, plus how Australia’s plan to target McKenzie and use Sua'ali'i early simply evaporated. The big talking point: the Wallabies’ box kicking and lack of plan B, and what changes before Sydney with the Bledisloe already gone. The chat widens to deeper issues in Australian rugby: pathways, depth, contracts, competition structure, and the ongoing problem at 10, with Carter Gordon central to the future. Plus: refereeing boundaries, TMO stoppages, laws that need simplifying, and how World Rugby can better grow the game beyond the Nations Cup tiers.

Also in this episode:

● All Blacks high ball improvements punish Australia’s tactic

● Wallabies lose momentum after McKenzie sparks first try

● Australia’s box kicking hands New Zealand easy counterattack

● Depth and bench quality gap exposed between squads

● Refereeing, TMO stoppages, and law simplification debate

● Nations Cup growth, fixtures for emerging unions, Brazil support

PLUS: A look at the Raeburn Shield, Argentina hiring Sean Edwards, and Fiji’s reported Jake White move.

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