Dying is a natural part of life, but what about the admin work that comes after it? Who deals with it? Can you even deal with it? Another type of lawyer, Bao Nguyen, is joining us to share about the morbid side of death and importance of having a Will. We also get to know Bao's journey to law, with a side of political advisory.

To get you thinking about own life admin if the unexpected ever happens, Arver Law is offering a $150 discount exclusively to Rice n Mics listeners for drafting of your Will, valid until 31 December 2025. Please email bnguyen@arverlaw.com.au for more information.

Arver Law: https://www.arverlaw.com.au/

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Music: aKu - Love Shine | aKu - The Final Blow

Chapters

0:00 Intro

2:52 SWEH Expo, Arver Law

5:31 The law journey, too sane to work as a youth officer

8:57 Applying for a Cabra law firm, learning Viet, YES I AM SICK

12:28 Work at the Cabra law firm, differences with a larger firm

15:17 Toxic work culture, emails at 2AM?!

18:57 Hitting a dark spot, changes in work

21:08 More about the Cabra law firm, Maccas

24:35 The clarkeship/graduate experience, Shanghai exchange

32:30 VSA (Vietnamese Students Association)

35:35 Community events, working with Dai Le origin story

40:58 Working as a Policy Advisor for Dai

42:35 What's it like working in a politician's office?

45:25 Election time, who prints posters? Putting posters up?

48:57 Political drama

52:18 Young advisory committee, changes with Gen Z voters

54:16 BRAINROT political campaigns

55:44 The importance of wills, younger clients?

1:00:51 Issues when you don't have a will

1:04:30 Signing off my family member's wishes after death

1:08:02 Living wills vs dead wills

1:11:11 Why can't AI just write it? A DISCOUNT CODE??

1:15:57 Outro

The founder of Saigon Brew, Dylan, joins us to talk about his Aussie-owned Vietnamese coffee brand. A journey some might find familiar of trying to find something more fulfilling than the 9-5 corporate life, we talk about his passion for his Vietnamese roots which led him to craft a beverage which resonates with his cultural heritage.

Items mentioned:

Top 100 coffee shops: https://bit.ly/3RDC4m9

Saigon Brew socials:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saigonbrew/

Website: https://saigonbrew.com.au/

Our listeners get 15% off with the code 'RICENMICS15'

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Chapters

0:00 Intro

1:20 The inception of Saigon Brew, Covid times

6:09 Finding a warehouse, inspiration

8:20 Why coffee? Japan moment with cans

10:46 Introducing Viet coffee

11:47 Do cafes make more money in summer vs winter?

12:59 New trend for coffee in Vietnam

14:34 Australia has the best coffee in the world?

15:49 Top 10 coffee shops in the world

16:52 I am a fruit enjoyer

20:23 How do you intro new coffee to people, pairing with durries

22:25 The three flavours of Saigon Brew

25:18 Where are people buying from? Northern Territory?!

28:20 Challenges of starting the business, finding partners

32:52 Tips if you wanna start a F&B business

35:03 Alcohol and durries being taxed high

38:23 The corporate life journey

42:50 Call centre environments suck, empathy fatigue

44:37 Defined benefits, the worst working environment

50:39 Process analyst

52:44 Process improvement at Virgin Money

55:05 The last corporate role

57:05 Investing more into Saigon Brew but staying in corporate

59:02 The first grocery store

59:54 G7/Trung Nguyen coffee goss

1:03:07 Contacting grocers, aggressive ads

1:11:36 Woolies metro type stores would do well?

1:15:53 Costco's rule for buying products

1:20:23 Balancing 2 jobs

1:24:23 Achievements/Milestones

1:25:13 How long did it take from idea to product?

1:26:34 New flavours? The rise of Asian flavours

1:31:04 How important is community?

1:33:56 Inspiration? Role models?

1:38:33 Future plans? How do you get nutritional info?

1:41:00 The development lifecycle

1:43:38 Social plugs

When I think of working in sales, two movies come to mind: The Wolf of Wall Street and Glengarry Glen Ross. Ruthless sales tactics where people will stop at nothing as long as it lines their pockets with money. My old friend Lawrence takes me along his journey in the sales space from retail to B2B, and busts some myths of salesmen.

Guest: Lawrence Ly

Items mentioned:

Backdoor Banter Podcast:https://www.instagram.com/backdoorbants/

Grant Cardone training video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL1AESpPgNQ

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Chapters

0:00 Intro

1:05 How we know each other

2:41 Why is Lawrence here, how he landed his first sales job

6:59 How Lawrence and I applied for work as 16 year olds

8:43 The WORST WORK EXPERIENCE EVER

12:48 The most satisfying quitting story

16:16 Never stay with the counter offer when you quit

18:39 What was the commission there like?

19:48 Extended warranties suck, my fridge warranty issue

22:38 The motivation to get into sales - wolf of wall street?

23:59 Was uni a scam?

25:53 Experience working at Bing Lee

27:55 That mate who hooks you up with the discounted goods

29:41 Leaving for ANZ, dead people getting credit cards?

32:57 Why not pivot into high positions within banking?

35:00 After ANZ - JD Sports, crazy customers, physical threats

43:20 How was the call centre environment?

45:16 The uni capstone unit, an interesting group

48:54 EHP Labs, $100 a day?!

51:41 Whoring yourself out for any role after graduating

54:20 The work at EHP Labs

57:28 How to tailor the script for influencers

1:01:19 The dream job wasn't the dream

1:05:16 Moving to Gartner after getting fired

1:11:29 Dealing with rejection

1:12:49 Advice for someone starting in sales calls

1:21:58 Why not advance within Gartner?

1:24:02 How many states are there in Australia?

1:26:11 How do you find prospects? A buffet during covid.

1:30:00 What is Lastpass? Other password managers

1:32:27 What other sales tactics are used in B2B?

1:35:22 How is salary broken down?

1:42:39 Why stick around LastPass?

1:43:41 More hours = more money?

1:46:25 How AI has helped in the world of sales

1:47:55 How to maintain business relations

1:49:32 Funny story - Lawrence's biggest Bing Lee sale

1:56:37 Most creative way to close a sale - PRETENDING TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY?!

2:01:01 Advice for someone starting sales generally

2:03:18 Reading body language, finding common ground

2:06:33 Backdoor Banter Podcast