Welcome to the first episode of Revision: The Quest for the Future of News. On today’s episode, Andy sits down with Dessa—a rapper, singer-songwriter and writer—to ask what newsmakers can learn from musicians.

How do platforms shape the things we make? How do you know when your work has actually made an impact? And would social media feel different if we got rewarded for changing someone’s mind instead of winning arguments?

Revision brings together people from different disciplines and perspectives to help us imagine a better future for the way we learn about what’s happening in the world.

New episodes every Wednesday wherever you get your podcasts.

This podcast is a project of the Knight Center for the Future of News at Arizona State University. To learn more about our work, visit us at https://www.knightcenter.asu.edu

What does the future of news look like, and who should help imagine it?

On this podcast, we look beyond journalism for answers. Host Andy Pergam talks with interesting, forward-looking thinkers – artists, musicians, business leaders, technologists and others – to explore some of journalism's biggest challenges from fresh and innovative perspectives.

Revision: The Quest for the Future of News is presented by the Knight Center for the Future of News at the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication at Arizona State University. Visit knightcenter@asu.edu for more information.