When a client that provided >80% of revenue disappears overnight, how do you rebuild? Jeremy Shapiro interviews Mike Wiston, co‑founder of MowMedia, about the revenue collapse that reshaped their sales and product philosophy, the 'sell before you build' approach, and podcast marketing tactics that supported MowMedia's growth as a dedicated podcast marketing company. Actionable takeaways: validating offers early, pricing to win, and aligning product with real buyer needs.

MowMedia initially built its business around newsletter growth.

Then Morning Brew came along.

A roughly $20,000 test quickly turned into six-figure spending and gave Mike and his team the validation they needed to know they had a real business.

There was just one problem: Morning Brew represented more than 80% of their revenue.

When the company was acquired and its spending stopped, that revenue disappeared almost overnight.

Mike and his team had employees to pay, a significant burn rate, and no easy replacement for their biggest customer.

Instead of allowing the setback to end the company, they rebuilt how they approached growth.

Mike shares how:
✔️ Morning Brew became the client that validated MowMedia
✔️ More than 80% of company revenue disappeared after the acquisition
✔️ Landing The Hustle helped replace the lost business
✔️ MowMedia became a sales-first organization
✔️ Constant pipeline development reduced dependence on individual clients
✔️ Apple's iOS changes disrupted the newsletter growth business
✔️ Podcasting became the company's next major opportunity
✔️ MowMedia eventually generated more than 90% of its revenue from podcasting
✔️ The company became the largest dedicated podcast marketing firm in the US, Canada, and UK
In this episode, we discuss:
✔️ Why every company needs an unfair advantage
✔️ Selling results instead of clicks and impressions
✔️ The danger of customer concentration
✔️ Why sales activity shouldn't stop when business is booming
✔️ What happens when a market's primary KPI suddenly stops working
✔️ How MowMedia moved from newsletters into podcast marketing
✔️ The sell-first, build-second philosophy
✔️ Testing demand before investing in a product
✔️ Using existing customers to validate new ideas
✔️ Testing pricing during product development
✔️ Why founders sometimes need to abandon good ideas
✔️ Taking emotion out of product decisions
✔️ Understanding customers by experiencing their problems yourself
✔️ Building communities without treating every member as a sales opportunity

Mike also shares lessons on:
✔️ Launching Friday Night Karaoke to experience podcasting firsthand
✔️ Growing its Facebook community to more than 50,000 members
✔️ Why MowPod's first major podcast product failed
✔️ Killing a product instead of continuing to pour money into it
✔️ The gaming company that became an expensive lesson in emotional decision-making
✔️ Turning MowPod Charts into a completely free podcast resource
✔️ Using free products for long-term brand awareness
✔️ Finding the hidden KPIs clients don't always verbalize
✔️ Why growth without a meaningful business outcome doesn't matter
✔️ Creating relationships where the customer and service provider both win

👉 Connect with Mike Wiston:
· MowPod: https://mowpod.com/
· MowPod Charts: https://charts.mowpod.com/
· Mike Wiston on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikewiston/
· Mike Wiston on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobimike/

📘 Hosted by Jeremy B. Shapiro, Author, Your Business Growth Playbook ( https://yourbusinessgrowthplaybook.com/ )

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