n this episode, I welcome counselor and trauma-healing specialist Norma Burton and lucid dreaming practitioner and filmmaker Nisha Burton to discuss their book Navigating Liminal Realms. They define liminal realms as the in-between space connecting ordinary waking reality with non-ordinary reality (dreamtime), and describe the book as a training manual for safely navigating these states—especially as interest grows in psychedelics and shamanic practices. They emphasize preparation and “psycho-navigation” (learning universal and personal maps of the psyche), developing a safe container, and beginning integration before psychedelic ceremonies. Norma explains how trauma can fragment the psyche, how shadow material forms through splits between persona and unconscious, and frames healing as a gradual process akin to soul retrieval that individuals must do with guidance over time. Nisha and Norma describe lucid dreaming and drumming journeys as substance-free precursor practices that build agency, trust in inner guidance, and skills for meeting shadow material, including techniques for dream recall, reality checks, sustaining lucidity, and working with nightmares. The conversation also addresses Western tendencies to externalize authority, the importance of self-responsibility, decolonizing mind and soul, honoring lineage to avoid appropriation, and the idea that current global changes (including AI and climate crisis) reflect a collective liminal time calling for inner work and wholeness.

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Navigating Liminal Realms

Inner Traditions

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In this episode of Rebel Spirit Radio, I welcome author Jason Mankey to the podcast to discuss his book High Priest: Raymond Buckland the Father of American Witchcraft. We delve into the life and legacy of Raymond Buckland, his influence on modern witchcraft, from bringing Gardnerian Wicca to the United States to his welcoming approach towards the LGBTQ+ community. We also touch on Buckland's key works, including the iconic Big Blue Book, and the establishment of the Buckland Museum of Witchcraft and Magic in Cleveland, Ohio. Join the conversation to learn more about the history and evolution of witchcraft in America and the significant contributions of Raymond Buckland.

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High Priest

Llewellyn

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In this episode, Christopher McIntosh returns to Rebel Spirit Radio to discuss his latest book, the spiritual memoir, The Call of The Old Gods. The conversation touches upon McIntosh's journey into paganism, the definition and significance of paganism, and how it nourishes the different levels of the human being. We explore the role of cultural memory and the cyclical notion of history inherent in pagan beliefs. McIntosh shares personal anecdotes about his influences, notable figures in the esoteric world he has encountered, and the importance of reviving pagan traditions. The discussion also delves into the need for sacred spaces, the influence of Pan and other gods, and the growing interest in paganism and esoteric studies in modern times.

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The Call of the Old Gods

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