🎙 Real Human Design Stories – Episode 88

Welcome to Episode 88 of Real Human Design Stories.

I’m thrilled to welcome back Brandy Jordan, a 6/2 Splenic Manifestor, Left Angle Cross of Incarnation.

Brandy is a guide, teacher, and field-builder working at the intersection of Human Design, somatic awareness, and relational psychology. Her work centers on integration over insight and embodiment over peak experience.

This is not a Human Design origin story. It’s an evolution story.

In this conversation, we explore the spiral of becoming — how we revisit the same themes (relationships, identity, freedom, fear) at deeper levels each time. We talk about nervous system regulation, the tension between victimhood and freedom, autoimmune patterns as biological signaling (Brandy shares from her lived experience with lupus), and how relationships evolve through seasons — including conscious uncoupling and consensual support.

This episode is a reminder that life doesn’t move in straight lines. It spirals.

• The spiral of growth: from insecurity to security

• Victimhood vs freedom and the power of perception

• Regulation through emotion (not bypassing it)

• Autoimmune patterns and alignment

• Ecosystems vs funnels: finding your fractal

• Relationships, consent, and conscious uncoupling

Brandy’s first appearance (Episode 71 – Honoring the Body, the Heart, and the Experiment):

https://youtu.be/wrjCDtD52GA?si=G_jnGmX8jmq632sA

Connect with Brandy:

https://www.emergebydesign.net/Brandy

A Human Design Experience – Miami Edition:

https://www.ahumandesignexperience.com/

High Desert Human Design Conference:

https://www.facebook.com/Highdeserthumandesign/

Email: loveyourself@highdeserthumandesign.com

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Episode Highlights🌐 Connect & Resources

In Episode 87 of Real Human Design Stories, I’m sitting down with Alex Negrete, a 2/4 Self-Projected Projectorwith the RAX of the Sphinx, to talk about direction, identity, and what happens when the life that looks like “success” stops fitting.

Alex shares how a major health wake-up call at 21 became the beginning of a completely different path, and how Human Design later gave him permission to stop forcing a life that wasn’t his. We explore what it means to be Self-Projected (where clarity and direction are revealed through the voice), how the Cross of the Sphinx shows up as real-life course-corrections toward soul-aligned direction, and why faith is often the bridge when you don’t have the whole map yet.

We also go into Alex’s work with hypnotherapy and past-life exploration, including why receiving can feel hard when you don’t feel safe, how openness in the chart can turn into carrying what isn’t yours, and what changes when you build energetic hygiene and trust your system.

Timestamps

00:00 – When “success” stops fitting

03:08 – Early visibility and the wake-up call that changed everything

05:32 – How Human Design came back around (timing + deconditioning)

08:44 – Self-Projected direction: truth through the voice

12:17 – Hypnotherapy + past lives: subconscious healing and soul-level clarity

15:58 – Human Design mechanics: magnetic monopole, “driver,” and the soul question

20:52 – Hypnosis myths, safety, and trust

25:50 – Why it can feel like “it doesn’t work for me”

29:27 – Openness, sensitivity, and energetic boundaries

34:24 – Energetic hygiene: not carrying what isn’t yours

44:45 – Gate 55: faith as the antidote to fear

52:24 – What’s next for Alex: teaching, groups, and expanded offerings

54:14 – Wrap-up

To work with or connect with Alex: https://alexnegrete.com

To work with or connect with Kathy: https://kathybochonko.com

Episode 86 · Collective Souls at a Turning Point

with astrologer, Human Design analyst, and author Daljeet Peterson

Imagine first bumping into Human Design in the middle of a dust storm at Burning Man… and then setting it aside for a decade until life brings it back around at exactly the right moment. In this episode, Daljeet shares how 25+ years of astrology, a spiritual name with a big message behind it, and a love of story all came together in his work as a practical mystic and cosmic storyteller.

We unpack how astrology, Human Design, and the Gene Keys can talk to each other, why your chart can feel “unfinished” until you see it through another lens, and how understanding generational cycles can turn frustration with “other generations” into compassion, context, and real conversation. We also talk about Daljeet’s new book, Collective Souls: Generations, Astrology, and the Future of America, and what it means to be born for these times.

• How Daljeet first met Human Design at Burning Man and came back to it ten years later

• What happens when astrology, Human Design, and the Gene Keys start mirroring each other

• Seeing “weird” parts of your astrology chart differently through the bodygraph

• Polarities, Incarnation Crosses, and why the Sun/Earth axis is such a powerful spine in your design

• How to relate to your chart as a living relationship that deepens over time

• Using big planetary cycles (Saturn return, Chiron, Pluto) to frame your life stories

• Living as a 3/5 “martyr–heretic” and why trial-and-error is not a mistake, it is the path

• Godheads, chemistry, and working with rich archetypal story in Human Design

• Generational astrology, the U.S. Pluto return, and why this moment feels so intense

• Turning generational judgment into intergenerational conversation and shared purpose

• The meaning behind Daljeet’s spiritual name and what it asked him to grow into

00:00 – Introduction to Human Design and astrology

01:32 – Meet Daljeet: astrologer, Human Design analyst, and author

05:04 – Daljeet’s journey from astrology into Human Design

09:09 – Integrating astrology, Human Design, and the Gene Keys

18:53 – The power of polarities and Incarnation Crosses

21:54 – Deepening the relationship with your chart over time

34:27 – Navigating life’s major cycles (Saturn, Chiron, Pluto)

36:07 – Understanding the 3/5 “martyr–heretic” profile

40:33 – Exploring the concept of Godheads

46:33 – Generational astrology and crisis cycles

49:46 – Why intergenerational conversations matter

55:07 – Introducing Collective Souls

58:29 – Daljeet’s spiritual journey and name story

01:00:31 – Closing thoughts and where to go next

• Substack (writing, videos, and offers): mutablefire.substack.com

• Book: Collective Souls: Generations, Astrology, and the Future of America

  
  

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